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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jun 3, 2007 16:44:14 GMT -5
L) Any remaining Minor Leaguer, Prospect, Free Agent and/or unprotected player, that is not previously defined may not be signed until both the prospect draft and waiver draft have concluded and a Free Agent signing date has been established.
E) No free agent signing is allowed before June 1. After keepers are submitted on June 1, any prospect not from the current years draft class, and with 10 games or less NHL experience may be signed to a mangers respective farm team providing there is an open roster spot. Any minor leaguer with 10 games or less NHL experience may also be signed under the same restrictions. Open prospect signing will resume once the current years Prospect Draft has concluded and open Free Agent signing will resume after both drafts have concluded.
coupled with the aforementioned rule and it doesnt get any more "explicit" than that...
talk about the pot calling the kettle black. i literally chuckled out loud to myself when i read this. you CANT be serious. there was a league organization period spanning the better part of two months where several polls were started, none of which were ever resolved. I asked peoples opinion and asked for input, suggestions and rule changes but to no avail.
once again, i take it upon myself to cater to the league and write up a nice, concrete rule book with nothing to go on and no input from the rest of the leagues members and this is my token of gratitude? everyone in this league had ample time to voice their opinion spanning two months AND ample time to voice their opinion on the new rulebook before the keeper deadline.
lame? deceptive? i didnt know abiding by the rules placed before you was lame, much less deceptive. you act as if i am the only team that these rules apply to. its the LEAGUE rulebook, not the ottawa senators rulebook. youre more than welcome to abide by and exploit the same rules as i am. its not my responsibility if your or anybody elses dedication or understanding, for that matter, is lacking.
sorry, my actions are not lame and deceptive and i dont appreciate the accusation.
LAME = no league activity DECEPTIVE = back alley trading and "shady" deals
and most importantly LAME = complaining about rules that you had ample time to come up with and change yourself multiple times yet failed to do so. LAME = having the nerve to come on here and subtly accuse me of bogus acts because youre too lazy to read the rule book that was written up for you. and last but not least, LAME = not noticing, not understanding a rule, and not making any effort to understand a rule, yet defending those notions by harassing the manager(s) who do with such original adjectives like "lame" and "deceptive."
oh and P.S. im not upset or anything either.
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Post by patriot0103 on Jun 3, 2007 18:32:23 GMT -5
sorry, my actions are not lame and deceptive and i dont appreciate the accusation. I knew this was coming. Calm down...nobody took major issue with this. What you did was fair, it's just that you wrote the rulebook just the other day and you were the only one that caught that section. The deceptive part comes from the appearance as if you made an attempt to make sure nobody knew that clause by waiting until right before the keeper deadline to make those moves...thus giving other teams less time to do the same. Honestly, even if I knew this rule, I don't think it would've down a whole lot for my team...I couldn't care less. By the way, you basically just ripped me apart for using the word "Deceptive", I could also do the exact same of your use of the word "Harassing" at the end of the post, but I won't. Just pointing it out. Seems like you're "flipping shit" unnecessarily. i literally chuckled out loud to myself when i read this. Loser.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 3, 2007 19:45:34 GMT -5
Is this a joke? First of all the new rulebook was made mere days before the keeper deadline. Second, I did express to you how lame that rule was, and it is lame as fuck. Third, what are you talking about "no input from the rest of the league's members"? Are you high? There were 8 solid managers who voted and gave input throughout this "organizational period", it wasn't just you making this shit up all by your lonesome. How about a little credit? Fourth, this rule was never discussed in your "organizational period", it was made up by you and you alone. I guarantee you that the majority of our active managers would have voted against this lame rule. Fifth, I will use the word "lame" as much as I please when what I'm describing fits the bill. Bottom line, the rule was implemented under shady terms.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 3, 2007 19:51:13 GMT -5
I just set up a poll to try and eliminate this rule. Check it out.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Jun 3, 2007 21:37:24 GMT -5
everyone in this league had ample time to voice their opinion spanning two months AND ample time to voice their opinion on the new rulebook before the keeper deadline. You're right about having ample time to voice opinions about what should be included, however you updated & posted the new rules like 2 days before the deadline, which is hardly "ample time" to voice an opinion about the new rules. Also, having 8 managers give input to the rules when 2 or 3 were considered 'AWOL'/replaceable isn't as bad as you make it seem.
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Post by Aubrey on Jun 3, 2007 23:06:32 GMT -5
I have only been here for a few days and I was able to read the rule book within the first day my account was created. Fact is, everyone should have taken the time to read the revised rules and make sure they understood them clearly, and if not, ask questions. I wasn't present for the changing rules discussion so I can't comment on that but I can say one thing: I was aware of this rule and Derrick mentioned something about it to me a couple days before June 1st. It didn't seem to me like he was trying to keep other managers from knowing about it.
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Post by patriot0103 on Jun 3, 2007 23:33:07 GMT -5
I have only been here for a few days and I was able to read the rule book within the first day my account was created. Fact is, everyone should have taken the time to read the revised rules and make sure they understood them clearly, and if not, ask questions. I wasn't present for the changing rules discussion so I can't comment on that but I can say one thing: I was aware of this rule and Derrick mentioned something about it to me a couple days before June 1st. It didn't seem to me like he was trying to keep other managers from knowing about it. I don't but that to be honest. I find it hard to believe that you would know that rule and not take advantage of it, by calling up and signing for the benefit of your own team.
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Post by Aubrey on Jun 3, 2007 23:54:38 GMT -5
Like you said... Honestly, even if I knew this rule, I don't think it would've down a whole lot for my team...I couldn't care less. It was my decision not to take advantage of the rule. Just because I didn't doesn't mean that I didn't know it existed.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jun 4, 2007 2:57:19 GMT -5
it only took how long? 3 weeks? 4? more? that is beside that fact that i had to go hunt down the majority of those managers to vote because they didnt check or were unaware that polls were even up. these are the behind the scenes things you dont see, its like pulling teeth.
also, there is a logical explanation as to why everything is how it is and why every rule reads how it reads. it has actually been thought out rather than refuted just because you dont like a rule or because its "lame." let me know if anybody wants to hear it in the midst of all the sword drawing. nah, nevermind...who cares about that, seriously?
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Post by Phil - Blue Jackets on Jun 4, 2007 15:18:57 GMT -5
I guess it was silly of me not to check the Ottawa Senators Farm Transactions for rule discussion. What was I thinking. I woud have voted differently in the poll.
Nobody cares, but I can't remember how many times I said "lock the rosters." Fucking fortune teller.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jun 5, 2007 13:22:34 GMT -5
The Ottawa Senators send Ryane Clowe to Binghamton. The Ottawa Senators sign Anton Stralman to Binghamton.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jun 6, 2007 15:10:13 GMT -5
The Ottawa Senators re-sign Petr Kalus to Binghamton. The Ottawa Senators release Michal Neuvirth from Binghamton.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jun 27, 2007 3:35:29 GMT -5
The Ottawa Senators sign Andreas Nodl to Binghamton.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 1, 2007 23:03:01 GMT -5
The Ottawa Senators sign Dimitri Patzold to Binghamton.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jul 5, 2007 6:34:54 GMT -5
Aren't you over the roster limit? I was under the impression we could only have 19 players on each squad? It's not like your guys changed status (which was all supposed to be taken care of by now anyway) but they're "extra" guys signed by you. It's also not from extra picks in any draft either, as was discussed. Can I just start signing a bunch of guys left and right as long as they're labelled in red or what?
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Post by Andrew on Jul 5, 2007 11:21:00 GMT -5
The rule said that you can go over the roster size through draft or trade. His last prospect signing was July 1st, which put him at a full roster. On July 3rd, he traded 2 players for 5 (Irving, Cogliano for Lombardi, Smid, Varlamov, Rask, Kostitsyn) and that is why he's 3 players over the limit.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Jul 5, 2007 15:41:26 GMT -5
Can I just start signing a bunch of guys left and right as long as they're labelled in red or what? You can't, but Mr. Commish Derrick can. I kid, I kid. Derrick just knows the rules better than us since he's the one that typed them.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 5, 2007 15:53:37 GMT -5
I posted direct innuendos in someones farm thread stating "i dont know why people insist on sending their newly drafted prospects down when they go directly to the farm anyway." or something to that effect in which you, mark, even responded. the rules are there in black and white for everyone to read just as they are for me. it is a responsibility[/b] to the league to read the rulebook, not have "mr. commish derrick" read them word for word to you. Also, Kopitar and Ovechkin are not for sale. Just thought id throw that out there as a league notice.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Jul 5, 2007 16:00:35 GMT -5
I posted direct innuendos in someones farm thread stating "i dont know why people insist on sending their newly drafted prospects down when they go directly to the farm anyway." or something to that effect in which you, mark, even responded. the rules are there in black and white for everyone to read just as they are for me. it is a responsibility [/b] to the league to read the rulebook, not have "mr. commish derrick" read them word for word to you. Also, Kopitar and Ovechkin are not for sale. Just thought id throw that out there as a league notice. [/quote] a) I just stated I send prospects to the farm so that I, personally, can keep track of who/how many people I have on the farm team. i know my picks go to my farm team. where else would my picks go? your farm team? i bet you'd like that, wouldn't you? b) but its more fun to blame unexpected surprises on "mr. commish" than to read the rules ourselves. its too many words. i hate words. in fact, i hate them so much that i'm not going to use any more words in this sentence starting... NOW. c) if kopitar & ovechkin aren't for sale, then how about rentals?
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Post by patriot0103 on Jul 5, 2007 16:41:28 GMT -5
Today at 3:53pm, Derrick - Senators wrote: I posted direct innuendos in someones farm thread stating "i dont know why people insist on sending their newly drafted prospects down when they go directly to the farm anyway." or something to that effect in which you, mark, even responded. the rules are there in black and white for everyone to read just as they are for me. it is a responsibility[/b] to the league to read the rulebook, not have "mr. commish derrick" read them word for word to you. Also, Kopitar and Ovechkin are not for sale. Just thought id throw that out there as a league notice. What the hell!! I purposely put off reading the rules because I was waiting for the Commish Derrick Downloadable Audio Version. Wow, now I need hooked on phonics, because it'll take me a week to get through that shit. P.S. I see it's a tough choice choosing between bold and italics. Today at 4:00pm, Mark - Bruins wrote: i know my picks go to my farm team. where else would my picks go? your farm team? i bet you'd like that, wouldn't you? Who would want your picks?.............hmmm... Probably nobody? Quote: i hate words. in fact, i hate them so much that i'm not going to use any more words in this sentence starting... NOW. wow.
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