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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 18, 2014 1:09:25 GMT -5
BTW, ouch to those managers who didn't get their farms done before Derrick threw them up.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jun 18, 2014 2:20:28 GMT -5
I know for a fact that Filip Forsberg broke eligibility rules and is on suspended waivers as of now. The other players on suspended waivers are no longer highlighted either, I think it would be a great help to the league to showcase all suspended waiver players. I also feel like we should hold the Prospect Draft sometime after the Entry Draft. This way any leftover 2014 draftees can be taken, giving a little more importance to the Prospect Draft. I'm pretty sure we did this last year because I ended up taking Artturi Lehkonen with one of my picks. What do you guys think? If the Prospect Draft were to be held after the Entry Draft it would kind of defeat the purpose of the Prospect Draft altogether. Might as well just have a six round Entry Draft. And as far as the highlighted names go, the only teams it benefits are those with high draft picks. I have interviewed a couple candidates but none have quite been what I am looking for. I will keep searching. As always, if you guys have any GM recommendations don't hesitate to send me the contact information. Watch your language you inconsiderate bastard.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 18, 2014 2:41:44 GMT -5
Yes but you didn't even warn that you'd be taking that information down. Information I'm sure, you yourself, saved. I thought you'd start a new thread altogether and the older 2013 thread would still be available to peruse.
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Post by Glenn - Wild on Jun 18, 2014 8:09:23 GMT -5
Let me know if I'm wrong but was filip forsberg not awarded back to Colorado because the violation happened in a time when no gm was in control of the team. And then traded and no other violation occurred? So he is not on suspended waivers.
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Post by Mike on Jun 18, 2014 10:07:10 GMT -5
Nos we all had a league vote last year to allow Filip Forsberg back onto my roster and then he was traded at the deadline.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 18, 2014 11:02:26 GMT -5
Oh yeah right, my bad on that. I'd still like to see a Suspended Waivers player list.
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Jun 18, 2014 11:36:32 GMT -5
That should be part of your own available players list. Players on suspended waivers can't be picked up until waiver draft.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 18, 2014 12:13:19 GMT -5
I tend to use a lot of the information gathered on this board because it's accurate to this league. Sure I have my own available players list (400+ players deep) but I was under the impression that this information would always be available, suspended waivers, players who slipped off the list, if I had known it was going to be pulled I would have taken notes. Now I'll have to annoyingly comb through each farm and make new notes, and why? Because information was pulled from the league for some reason, an attempt to 'hide' information and gain an advantage. I'll do the work, it's not me you have to worry about, I'm the last person this is going to hurt.
Players on suspended waivers can be picked up in the Entry Draft as well, as long as they meet Prospect requirements.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jun 18, 2014 16:10:33 GMT -5
Players on suspended waivers can be picked up in the Entry Draft as well, as long as they meet Prospect requirements. There are only one or two players on suspended waivers (from Detroit) who meet this criteria, and they are largely irrelevant whereas they wouldn't be drafted anyway.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 18, 2014 17:03:47 GMT -5
Players on suspended waivers can be picked up in the Entry Draft as well, as long as they meet Prospect requirements. There are only one or two players on suspended waivers (from Detroit) who meet this criteria, and they are largely irrelevant whereas they wouldn't be drafted anyway. There's a pretty significant prospect sitting on suspended waivers.
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Jun 20, 2014 10:43:35 GMT -5
I am sorry to confuse things more but this can't be right. These drafts should be straight forward and simple this is how I understand things.
Prospect Draft 10GP or less and already drafted.
Entry Draft Is exactly that Entry level no NHL GP
Waiver Draft Is all other available players.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jun 20, 2014 15:18:12 GMT -5
8) Prospect Draft A) The Prospect Draft is a three round serpentine draft (1-12, 12-1, 1-12). B) Only Prospects with 10 or less NHL games played (not from the current year’s draft class) may be drafted. C) The order of the Prospect Draft will be determined based on a random order generator. The order and results will be emailed to each GM and posted on the forum. ________________________________________ 9) Entry Draft A) The Entry Draft is a three round standard draft (1-12, 1-12. 1-12). B) The order of the Entry Draft will be based on the inverse of the final regular season standings from the previous year (12=1, 1=12) C) All players drafted in the Entry Draft must meet the eligibility requirements for a prospect. D) Players selected in the Entry Draft will automatically be assigned to your Farm Team. ________________________________________ 10) Waiver Draft A) The Waiver Draft is a nine round serpentine draft (1-12, 12-1, 1-12). B) The order for the annual Waiver Draft will be determined as follows: #1 - Winner of the Consolation Bracket #2 - Runner-Up Consolation Bracket #3 - 3rd Place Consolation Bracket #4 - 4th Place Consolation Bracket #5 - 5th Place Consolation Bracket #6 - Last Place Consolation Bracket #7 - League Champion #8 - League Runner-Up #9 - 3rd Place Winner's Bracket #10 - 4th Place Winner's Bracket #11- 5th Place Winner's Bracket #12 - 6th Place Winner's Bracket C) All remaining free agents may be drafted.
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Post by Mike on Jun 24, 2014 20:09:22 GMT -5
So I just want to clear things up, are the suspended waiver players only eligible to b drafted in the waiver draft?
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 25, 2014 0:19:24 GMT -5
No, they can be drafted in the Entry Draft as long as they meet prospect requirements.
9) Entry Draft C) All players drafted in the Entry Draft must meet the eligibility requirements for a prospect.
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Jun 25, 2014 0:50:45 GMT -5
Why do we need Prospect Draft then?? It seems a little silly that you can draft players in the entry draft that have already been drafted in the entry draft. We should just look at going to a 6 round entry draft if this is going to continue to apply. Suspended waiver players in my opinion should not be available until waiver draft. Choosing players in the entry draft that have been drafted in previous entry drafts does not make sense.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 25, 2014 3:21:28 GMT -5
We have the Prospect Draft just for prospects who have played 10 games or fewer, these are the players that are leftover from previous drafts, players who might have gained notoriety recently and thus are worthy to be drafted. It's designed as a fair dispersal draft, rather than giving a date to sign all prospects at a certain time like we did in the past, we ran into a lot of problems with that method.
This is the first off-season we've used Suspended Waivers, I personally love the addition of Suspended Waivers, I feel like it's an inspired step forward. It makes every manager more responsible and accountable for their team, if you break eligibility rules you lose players, these players are then put into another fair dispersal draft depending on their status. These players just happen to be prospects that have played in over 10 games who can be drafted in the Entry Draft because they meet eligibility requirements.
To sum up, the rule makes every manager more responsible and accountable for their team, in addition to improving the drafting talent pool, the lost players are put into a fair dispersal draft dependent on status. I don't see the issue you see.
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Post by Mike on Jun 25, 2014 5:18:26 GMT -5
The issue I have with it is that an entry draft should be just that an entry draft for players that have 0 games played in the NHL considering it's an entry draft. A player who has played even 1 NHL game shouldn't be able to be taken in such draft, all suspended waiver players should only be taken in the waiver draft especially since they are texhnically on waivers. I loved that you get punished for mis managing but having these players or any prospect being able to be taken in these draft makes no sense to me.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 25, 2014 5:53:22 GMT -5
It makes perfect sense to me because the rule is right there, plain to see, prospects can be drafted. This is how it has always been, the only variance being the addition of Suspended Waivers, adding to the talent pool. The Entry Draft is there to draft prospects, I think you guys are a little too hung up on the name, yes it's called the Entry Draft but was previously called the Prospect Draft. It was changed to accommodate the new draft we added to fairly disperse prospects after keepers were submitted because managers were just signing a bunch of players at the same time (midnight) when the signing period opened. The Entry Draft is mainly for entry level players, that's its primary objective, hence its distinction, however it's a draft designed to draft any eligible prospects that are not owned by an NAFHL club.
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Post by Mike on Jun 25, 2014 9:36:42 GMT -5
I still think it makes more sense for prospect draft to b 10 or less games, entry draft 0 games played and waiver draft covers everyone else. Sorry to be stubborn on this but that just seems way easier
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 25, 2014 20:57:09 GMT -5
01. It makes perfect sense, your way doesn't make more sense, it's just a different way. If it did make [more] sense it could be supported with irrefutable proof. 02. The easiest way is rarely the best way.
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