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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 3, 2017 18:07:39 GMT -5
There are a lot of things that need to be addressed with the rules, NAFHL Olympics and the upcoming drafts this offseason. Big changes are coming to the league so I need to know who is in and who is out. As of right now it is my understanding that Carolina is out, Minnesota is out, and possibly Anaheim. If that is the case, then I want to open up a discussion about a possible redrafting of (main club) teams (separate from the Waiver Draft) who don't have GM's and any other returning GM who wants to redraft his keepers from the available pool of those teams in the redraft.
So with that said, I have started this role call thread so that everyone can let me know who intends to be a NAFHL GM this coming season (and can meet league expectations) and who wishes to remove themselves from the league and/or doesn't think they can hack it. Additionally, if you choose to stay, let me know whether or not you are interested in redrafting your main club keepers.
Thanks to everyone who has been here over the years and to everyone who has been present and active this offseason. Don't worry, this league isn't going anywhere. It isn't the first time we have faced adversity and it won't be the last. Happy drafting.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 3, 2017 18:13:02 GMT -5
As of right now a redraft would potentially be 3 teams, with 10 rounds drafting from the pool of 30 players below. Each team that wants to redraft in addition to these 3 teams would add their 10 keepers to the pool resulting in the following format. (4 teams/40 players/10 rounds, 5 teams/50 players/10 rounds, etc.)
Evgeni Malkin
Matt Duchene
Nathan MacKinnon
David Krejci
Nazim Kadri
Mikko Koivu
Artem Anisimov
Jonathan Toews
Anze Kopitar
T.J. Oshie
Marcus Johansson
Milan Lucic
Gabriel Landeskog
Filip Forsberg
Wayne Simmonds
Blake Wheeler
Jakub Voracek
Bobby Ryan
Nino Neiderreiter
Shea Weber
Torey Krug
Ryan Suter
Duncan Keith
John Carlson
Cam Fowler
Rasmus Ristolainen
Henrik Lundqvist
Brian Elliott
Craig Anderson
Ben Bishop
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Post by Mike on Jul 3, 2017 18:20:24 GMT -5
Here to stay, my team is my team don't need a re draft
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 3, 2017 18:21:33 GMT -5
Here to stay, my team is my team don't need a re draft Perfect. Thanks for your hard work dedication. |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jul 3, 2017 19:05:01 GMT -5
I would strongly advise against any sort of redraft, it's too big of a change, the history and foundation of the league needs to stay intact for legitimacy. There's no need to panic, just gotta get rid of the weak and/or less dedicated managers (like I've been saying for the longest time it seems) and replace them with superior hockey minds. Easier said than done. Going into our 12th season, crazy, few Keeper Leagues can attest to such a feat. The problem never was with the teams, those teams have a solid foundation like all teams do, there's more top talent in this Waiver Draft than any other in history too. I'm here for life, I don't stop looking at this NAFHL page even to sleep, this is my whole life!  |
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 3, 2017 19:12:23 GMT -5
I would strongly advise against any sort of redraft, it's too big of a change, the history and foundation of the league needs to stay intact for legitimacy. There's no need to panic, just gotta get rid of the weak and/or less dedicated managers (like I've been saying for the longest time it seems) and replace them with superior hockey minds. Easier said than done. Going into our 12th season, crazy, few Keeper Leagues can attest to such a feat. The problem never was with the teams, those teams have a solid foundation like all teams do, there's more top talent in this Waiver Draft than any other in history too. I'm here for life, I don't stop looking at this NAFHL page even to sleep, this is my whole life! I wouldn't consider this potential move one that is panicked so much so as one that is based in practicality. Finding quality GM's is not easy and it becomes even more difficult if new GM's have to take over teams that are not in the top 6. Having a limited re-draft is a move that might make the job more appealing for prospective GM's. |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jul 3, 2017 19:25:50 GMT -5
We should always try to emulate the real NHL whenever possible, was one of our motto's, if this were to happen in the NHL it would be considered a farce. Any GM opportunity in the NAFHL should be looked at as a major accomplishment and honor, as is the case with NHL management positions. When NHL teams aren't working management is replaced, higher draft picks are acquired, and teams improve in this way. Not by starting over...even in a limited fashion.
Having said that, I'll try my hardest to find at least one suitable replacement.
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Jul 3, 2017 22:52:44 GMT -5
I don't think their should be a redraft either but let's see how the rest of the league is feeling. Another option could be to fold two franchises and have there players made available in the waiver draft. This would also improve bottom teams and create a potent waiver draft year after year. We have a strong group of at least 9 committed managers right now. A tenth I believe would not be difficult for us to find.
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Jul 3, 2017 22:54:42 GMT -5
The competiteness of a ten team ten keeper league would be incredible.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Jul 4, 2017 0:21:02 GMT -5
I'm on daily have been since I was granted access to the league and will continue to be as long as I'm welcome. Hate to do a redraft but would understand the need if it came to it. If it does come to it I feel that Tyler's idea could be a potential option. I'm behind whatever we all decide is best for the league
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 4, 2017 0:25:58 GMT -5
I'm on daily have been since I was granted access to the league and will continue to be as long as I'm welcome. Hate to do a redraft but would understand the need if it came to it. If it does come to it I feel that Tyler's idea could be a potential option. I'm behind whatever we all decide is best for the league Just to be clear. Only the teams without current GM's and those GM's who willingly want to participate in a limited re-draft would be included. We would not be re-drafting the entire league. |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jul 4, 2017 0:45:37 GMT -5
Regression is retreating and that is not an acceptable action to take. I'm closing in on an elite talent.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 4, 2017 0:48:41 GMT -5
Regression is retreating and that is not an acceptable action to take. I'm closing in on an elite talent. The China-man is not the issue here Dude... |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jul 4, 2017 1:03:56 GMT -5
Derrick, he peed on my rug!
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Post by Jeff - Red Wings on Jul 4, 2017 5:07:31 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of a redraft. Tyler's idea maybe something we could look at closer
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 4, 2017 5:13:28 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of a redraft. Tyler's idea maybe something we could look at closer I appreciate the input from you guys but I would like it if you gave reasons why you feel a particular way. What about the idea of a redraft don't you like? |
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Jul 4, 2017 12:00:36 GMT -5
There is potential in redistributing some talent through a redraft. As of right now all GM's have said they wouldn't participate so if we're talking about the 3 new GM's drafting that could be a way to bring some exitment early in their tenure. Could help draw in better candidates for the job.
The only GM I think should consider joining the redraft would be Jeff Red Wings because he was left a squad in absolute shambles.
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Jul 4, 2017 12:02:09 GMT -5
There is potential in redistributing some talent through a redraft. As of right now all GM's have said they wouldn't participate so if we're talking about the 3 new GM's drafting that could be a way to bring some exitment early in their tenure. Could help draw in better candidates for the job.
The only GM I think should consider joining the redraft would be Jeff Red Wings because he was left a squad in absolute shambles.
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Post by Daniel - Canucks on Jul 5, 2017 1:06:14 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the "redraft" idea, there is plenty of framework to build with in each club (especially since some newly acquired talent), the thought seems a bit bizarre. Drafts should be saved for Prospects and Waiver Wire players in a leagues 12th season. The competiteness of a ten team ten keeper league would be incredible. We should be trying to expand the league, not dwindle it. |
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Jul 5, 2017 10:29:15 GMT -5
[/quote]We should be trying to expand the league, not dwindle it.
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We have a hard enough time keeping 12 quality GM's expanding is impossible. The top 120 players are kept in this league reducing two teams brings that number to 100 and adds 20 more quality players to the waiver draft.
I am all for status quo 12 teams 10 keepers no redrafting.
However if we keep losing GM's (or getting ones with no commitment) I believe we should consider a minor downsize to have a more intensely competitive league with qualified people running ten squads that could beat anyone any given week.
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So exciting.
You better make that pick or trade it! I'm excited to see if we can use up all the draft picks this year.