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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 16, 2013 15:15:57 GMT -5
What you're saying there makes absolutely 0 sense. By your definition you could keep a player in development team until 150 games. Now that's certainly not how that team was meant to be used and everyone knows it. No matter how hard you try to cover up for your fuckup it doesn't change the fact that I signed a free agent to my team as the player in question was no longer eligible to be rostered in your development team.
Oh and standings at this time of year mean nothing. I'll finish above the playoff line like I've done every season I've been in the league. Meanwhile you should be searching the free agent pool for some fourth tier goalies you can play instead of Price to make sure you finish in the bottom two again third year in a row.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Feb 16, 2013 15:29:42 GMT -5
I'm not saying players on development teams can stay on there forever. This whole time I've been proving that the rules don't say you can poach my players. You're just blind to it. Hence, you don't any grounds to steal my guys because the rules don't say you can do that. You haven't proven otherwise. You've only been using an outdated rule to try and improve your team's talent (because you haven't been able to do it any other way).
Also: Championships Boston has: 1. Championships Carolina has: 0.
I hope you enjoy your third straight first round knockout (hopefully by me this time!). I'm actually in this to win championships...
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 16, 2013 15:34:27 GMT -5
I didn't poach your player. That's really the fact that you just don't get. You lost your rights to the player in question you tried to roster him in your development team after his eligibility had run out.
"No more warnings will be issued beyond this first one. Those teams found in subsequent violation will forfeit player/players to free agency and/or the upcoming waiver/entry draft."
That was the ruling when this happened last year. No more warnings. No more holding hands for shitty GM's.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Feb 16, 2013 16:00:42 GMT -5
A ruling isn't a rule. Its a judgement based on the situation & what the rulebook says. There is nothing in the rulebook specifically addressing the issue at hand, only an outdated clause.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 16, 2013 16:26:53 GMT -5
A ruling isn't a rule. Its a judgement based on the situation & what the rulebook says. There is nothing in the rulebook specifically addressing the issue at hand, only an outdated clause. Now you're getting desperate. The commish of the league gave a judgement on exactly the same scenario last year. He stated there would be no further warnings and players who are incorrectly rostered will be lost. Meanwhile it's clearly said in the rulebook that only players under 10 NHL-games played are eligible to be rostered in the development team. You can try to go around it, above it, below it. I don't fucking care. That's the rule and that's how it goes.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Feb 16, 2013 16:27:32 GMT -5
Since you want to follow the rules so strictly, I could show that the move is wrong. The rules state that I have 2 days to make a move once a player no longer meets FARM team requirements. Meanwhile, the rules specifically refer to the development team as "additional farm team." Markus stole Galchenyuk away from my development team. Last I checked, Galchenyuk still meets "farm team" requirements (as defined by the rules as being a minor league player w 200 or less GP) & should still be on my roster. Nowhere in the rules does it state that Markus can steal a player from my development team aka the "additional farm team." The rule he's quoting only applies to "farm team" players who are no longer minor leaguers and are still being kept on the farm. Nowhere in the rules does it refer to losing eligibility on the "additional farm team" nor does it state a GM can steal another team's player from said team. Not to mention the fact that during the entire episode, I've had 18/19 players on my farm team, which means there was always space available for Galchenyuk to have been moved there. BOOM. Lawyered. This is a legitimate argument and thus shifts the debate from an ethical one, back to to one that is based on technicalities and the wording of rules. Therefore, I have started a poll so that the league can sort this mess out.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 16, 2013 16:56:39 GMT -5
Since you want to follow the rules so strictly, I could show that the move is wrong. The rules state that I have 2 days to make a move once a player no longer meets FARM team requirements. Meanwhile, the rules specifically refer to the development team as "additional farm team." Markus stole Galchenyuk away from my development team. Last I checked, Galchenyuk still meets "farm team" requirements (as defined by the rules as being a minor league player w 200 or less GP) & should still be on my roster. Nowhere in the rules does it state that Markus can steal a player from my development team aka the "additional farm team." The rule he's quoting only applies to "farm team" players who are no longer minor leaguers and are still being kept on the farm. Nowhere in the rules does it refer to losing eligibility on the "additional farm team" nor does it state a GM can steal another team's player from said team. Not to mention the fact that during the entire episode, I've had 18/19 players on my farm team, which means there was always space available for Galchenyuk to have been moved there. BOOM. Lawyered. This is a legitimate argument and thus shifts the debate from an ethical one, back to to one that is based on technicalities and the wording of rules. Therefore, I have started a poll so that the league can sort this mess out. I dont agree that's a legitimate argument when it's clearly written that you can only roster a player under 10 NHL-games played in your development team. If you actually consider what Mark is writing here as an argument then it's perfecectly legitimate to keep a player in development team until 150 NHL-games. I really don't think that's the idea of development teams, is it? It's the Boston owner who's trying to bend the rules here, not me.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Feb 16, 2013 17:08:35 GMT -5
The development teams were created to provide teams with more farm players, not take them away. That's the idea of them...
The rules don't say you can poach another team's player because they played more than 10 games. THAT's the argument.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 16, 2013 20:38:04 GMT -5
the rule clearly states that you will lose players to free agency which you did and they were signed.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 19, 2013 7:10:43 GMT -5
Carolina Hurricanes release Max Reinhart from the Checkers. Carolina Hurricanes send Ryan Ellis to the Checkers.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 21, 2013 7:02:51 GMT -5
Carolina Hurricanes release Matt Puempel from the Everblades. Carolina Hurricanes send Brock Nelson to the Everblades. Carolina Hurricanes send Justin Faulk to the Checkers.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 27, 2013 21:01:57 GMT -5
Carolina Hurricanes sign Philipp Grubauer and assign him to the Checkers.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Mar 4, 2013 11:31:09 GMT -5
Recall Atkinson and Faulk.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Mar 5, 2013 3:32:01 GMT -5
Carolina Hurricanes sign Ondrej Palat and assign him to the Checkers.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Mar 6, 2013 6:19:42 GMT -5
Carolina Hurricanes sign Andrey Makarov and assign him to the Checkers.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Mar 7, 2013 8:08:07 GMT -5
Carolina Hurricanes sign Jake Muzzin and assign him to the Checkers.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Mar 14, 2013 3:13:52 GMT -5
Carolina Hurricanes sign Andrei Loktionov and assign him to the Checkers.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Mar 30, 2013 2:15:02 GMT -5
Justin Faulk to Checkers. Recall Jake Muzzin.
Carolina Hurricanes release Tomas Kopecky and recall Cody Eakin. (I was supposed to do this tranaction but accidentally clicked Cam Atkinson instead, would be great if this can be corrected)
If it can't be corrected then the transaction stands like this:
Carolina Hurricanes send Cam Atkinson to the Checkers and recall Cody Eakin.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Mar 31, 2013 0:53:59 GMT -5
Carolina Hurricanes release Jordan Caron from the Checkers.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Mar 31, 2013 2:16:15 GMT -5
Andrey Makarov to Everblades. Nathan Beaulieu to Checkers.
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