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Post by Derrick - Senators on Mar 20, 2023 16:07:41 GMT -5
Or we can use a better metric. Like the one since his usage has increased. Say, the last 30 days where he ranks 90 overall and is the 10th best ranked D in the ENTIRE league. Yup. Yup. LETS GO JETS OH! Goodie! We're using the last 30 days rank now too. I'll just leave this here... Miro Heiskanen = #2 Rank (last 30 days) Quinn Hughes = #9 Rank (last 30 days) Heiskanen is 350% a BETTER defenceman than Hughes over the last 30 days. Heiskanen’s role has not changed over the past 30 days so this argument is irrelevant. Valikmaki’s role has significantly changed, hence the significance, and why it is a more telling metric than the loose connection you are trying to make.
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Post by Daniel - Canucks on Mar 20, 2023 16:55:45 GMT -5
OH! Goodie! We're using the last 30 days rank now too. I'll just leave this here... Miro Heiskanen = #2 Rank (last 30 days) Quinn Hughes = #9 Rank (last 30 days) Heiskanen is 350% a BETTER defenceman than Hughes over the last 30 days. Heiskanen’s role has not changed over the past 30 days so this argument is irrelevant. Valikmaki’s role has significantly changed, hence the significance, and why it is a more telling metric than the loose connection you are trying to make. Valimaki is irrelevant in my argument. Heiskanen and Hughes' roles have not changed all season. Heiskanen > Hughes.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Mar 20, 2023 17:34:19 GMT -5
Heiskanen’s role has not changed over the past 30 days so this argument is irrelevant. Valikmaki’s role has significantly changed, hence the significance, and why it is a more telling metric than the loose connection you are trying to make. Valimaki is irrelevant in my argument. Heiskanen and Hughes' roles have not changed all season. Heiskanen > Hughes. It sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself of this more than you are me at this point. If you were secure in that assertion you would not need to post 10 consecutive messages on the shout out box or highjack another completely unrelated thread to try and justify your opinion.
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Post by Daniel - Canucks on Mar 20, 2023 18:08:16 GMT -5
Valimaki is irrelevant in my argument. Heiskanen and Hughes' roles have not changed all season. Heiskanen > Hughes. It sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself of this more than you are me at this point. If you were secure in that assertion you would not need to post 10 consecutive messages on the shout out box or highjack another completely unrelated thread to try and justify your opinion. What can I say? I was super disappointed in your lack of a rebuttal in our debate. It's all good though, next time I'll just chaulk it up as a victory. I'm a fan of discussing hockey players man!
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Mar 20, 2023 22:49:08 GMT -5
Here's that full list of shit again, a reminder, since you're so interested in keeping shit going... Yegor Sharangovich (24/130)* Klim Kostin (22/46)* Nick Merkley (25/41)** Brett Leason (23/36)* Adin Hill (26/74)** Marcus Hogberg (27/42)** Anthony Stolarz (28/62)** Scott Wedgewood (29/77)** Yegor Zamula (22/12)* Juuso Valimaki (23/82)* Sean Durzi (23/64)* Erik Brannstrom (22/116)* German Rubtsov (23/4)* Jordy Bellerive (23/0)* Samu Tuomaala (19/0)* Brad Lambert (18/0)*Smelly-assed shit. 👃🍑💩 You've got a shit tier farm team, alright? Get over it, better yet, get better. You can go ahead and add Jack McBain (22/10)* to that list of shit by the way. 😎 How can you look at that day after day? Yikes! Shouldn’t you be worrying about your first round matchup of the playoffs that you are playing in? Because you didn’t get a bye…because you lost both of our head to head matchups… …Remind me why I should be taking any kind of advice from you again? LETS GO JETS. Hey, remember when you said this? Fun fact, more teams without the bye have won the NAFHL championship than those who have had the bye. Food for thought. ...and this? Also, I don't want the bye. I have two championships and only lost one playoff match up in 10 years without it. With it, I have lost in the second round (first match up) all but once. Well...do you remember? 🤪 Oh, it doesn't fit your narrative this time? 🤣 You know, all you've really showcased with how you've behaved over the past 15 years is how scared you are of your superiors...and it's obvious. It's also consistent dating as far back as 2009, telling me that you felt it almost instantly and you haven't improved nor can you improve if you haven't by now. Too bad. Keep rooting for every single manager I face, that sure isn't super telling either...is it? 🤣🤪🤣🤪 Joe Blow hockey fan. 👻 BOO! 👻
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Mar 21, 2023 19:31:54 GMT -5
Shouldn’t you be worrying about your first round matchup of the playoffs that you are playing in? Because you didn’t get a bye…because you lost both of our head to head matchups… …Remind me why I should be taking any kind of advice from you again? LETS GO JETS. Hey, remember when you said this? Fun fact, more teams without the bye have won the NAFHL championship than those who have had the bye. Food for thought. ...and this? Also, I don't want the bye. I have two championships and only lost one playoff match up in 10 years without it. With it, I have lost in the second round (first match up) all but once. Well...do you remember? 🤪 Oh, it doesn't fit your narrative this time? 🤣 You know, all you've really showcased with how you've behaved over the past 15 years is how scared you are of your superiors...and it's obvious. It's also consistent dating as far back as 2009, telling me that you felt it almost instantly and you haven't improved nor can you improve if you haven't by now. Too bad. Keep rooting for every single manager I face, that sure isn't super telling either...is it? 🤣🤪🤣🤪 Joe Blow hockey fan. 👻 BOO! 👻 As I have pointed out, I have already beaten you twice this season in two fairly non-competitive matchups. I am not rooting against you because I am scared. I am rooting against you because you are a dick.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Mar 21, 2023 22:31:23 GMT -5
You're the dick and don't know hockey whatsoever. Like I've said, this shit doesn't come from out of nowhere from nothing, you earn these reactions with BS you do. I can be your best friend or your worst enemy, the choice is yours. You're also the only manager in the history of the league who has actually cheated. You're terrified and it shows. Cheers! 🍻
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Mar 21, 2023 22:50:31 GMT -5
You're the dick and don't know hockey whatsoever. If I “don’t know hockey whatsoever” please explain to me rationally how I have a higher career lifetime Yahoo rating than than you and how I have won multiple championships in this league (and prior) over the past 20 years. Luck? You’ve said some pretty dumb things over the years, but this one might take the cake.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Mar 21, 2023 23:49:43 GMT -5
It sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself of this more than you are me at this point. If you were secure in that assertion you would not need to post 10 consecutive messages on the shout out box or highjack another completely unrelated thread to try and justify your opinion. What can I say? I was super disappointed in your lack of a rebuttal in our debate. It's all good though, next time I'll just chaulk it up as a victory. I'm a fan of discussing hockey players man! www.yahoo.com/sports/nhl-canucks-defenseman-quinn-hughes-being-overlooked-norris-trophy-race-185949479.html
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Mar 22, 2023 8:19:33 GMT -5
You're the dick and don't know hockey whatsoever. If I “don’t know hockey whatsoever” please explain to me rationally how I have a higher career lifetime Yahoo rating than than you and how I have won multiple championships in this league (and prior) over the past 20 years. Luck? You’ve said some pretty dumb things over the years, but this one might take the cake. Do you have selective memory or something? I think so. You're deluded, straight up. You have a higher career rating because you've played in more leagues, 8 more leagues total and 2 extra years of fantasy hockey. I never say anything dumb and if you think what I'm saying is dumb it's because you're dumb, period. I have more tracked (since 2009) 1st Place trophies than you and more NAFHL Championships than you all time. I have 5 2nd place NAFHL trophies to your single one. I have 11 NAFHL Finals appearances to your 6. I have the same amount of overall all time trophies to you (each with 8 1st, 6 2nd & 5 3rd trophies) despite playing in 8 fewer leagues and 2 fewer years. You've also cheated not once, not twice but multiple times and have meddled in my affairs on a consistent basis. You've also changed the foundation of the league (to the league's detriment) because of your fear of me. Ask Chris - Capitals if he likes the fact that he has to keep a bunch of shit tier Keepers because he only has 3 total players in the Top 100 instead of utilizing a useless Keeper Slot or two to improve his future in a much more substantial way. At the time it got shut down people were getting 1st Waiver picks, 1st Entry picks or both for a Keeper Slot! Or Hedman + 2nd & 3rd Waiver picks! Or Ryan O'Reilly + 1st Entry + 1st & 3rd Waiver! Yes, all of that! What an awful, awful, stupid, misguided mistake that was, nobody listened to me and the bottom teams paid for it big time...not me. I got better, way better. You like to think what you're doing is what's best for the league but anybody with a brain can see through it. Nobody who actually knew hockey would have such a shit tier farm team, and not just right now, all time. Nobody who actually knew hockey would shit talk one of the best young elite defensemen in the league. You don't give any credit, why? Fear. It's not like Daniel - Canucks thinks Hughes sucks like you've implied of Heiskanen, he just thinks Heiskanen is better and has given excellent reasoning for his opinion. You've had success (with the help of cheating, meddling, changing rules/not changing rules to the detriment of the league, situational advantage, zero relevant hardships, manipulation of skater starts, etc.) but do you impress me in any meaningful way? Not even a little bit. Maybe if you gave me credit my attitude would be different but you never have and since you shit talk me and my ability consistently you just look like a total fool to me. A scared fool. I'm as elite as fantasy managers get, alright? How can I take you seriously? For real? At the end of the day, I'm better than you...and you know it! 😎 PS: Jeff - Rad Wangs is gonna smash you! Cheeeeeeeeeeeers! 🍻
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Mar 22, 2023 9:29:32 GMT -5
If I “don’t know hockey whatsoever” please explain to me rationally how I have a higher career lifetime Yahoo rating than than you and how I have won multiple championships in this league (and prior) over the past 20 years. Luck? You’ve said some pretty dumb things over the years, but this one might take the cake. Do you have selective memory or something? I think so. You're deluded, straight up. You have a higher career rating because you've played in more leagues, 8 more leagues total and 2 extra years of fantasy hockey. I never say anything dumb and if you think what I'm saying is dumb it's because you're dumb, period. I have more tracked (since 2009) 1st Place trophies than you and more NAFHL Championships than you all time. I have 5 2nd place NAFHL trophies to your single one. I have 11 NAFHL Finals appearances to your 6. I have the same amount of overall all time trophies to you (each with 8 1st, 6 2nd & 5 3rd trophies) despite playing in 8 fewer leagues and 2 fewer years. You've also cheated not once, not twice but multiple times and have meddled in my affairs on a consistent basis. You've also changed the foundation of the league (to the league's detriment) because of your fear of me. Ask Chris - Capitals if he likes the fact that he has to keep a bunch of shit tier Keepers because he only has 3 total players in the Top 100 instead of utilizing a useless Keeper Slot or two to improve his future in a much more substantial way. At the time it got shut down people were getting 1st Waiver picks, 1st Entry picks or both for a Keeper Slot! Or Hedman + 2nd & 3rd Waiver picks! Or Ryan O'Reilly + 1st Entry + 1st & 3rd Waiver! Yes, all of that! What an awful, awful, stupid, misguided mistake that was, nobody listened to me and the bottom teams paid for it big time...not me. I got better, way better. You like to think what you're doing is what's best for the league but anybody with a brain can see through it. Nobody who actually knew hockey would have such a shit tier farm team, and not just right now, all time. Nobody who actually knew hockey would shit talk one of the best young elite defensemen in the league. You don't give any credit, why? Fear. It's not like Daniel - Canucks thinks Hughes sucks like you've implied of Heiskanen, he just thinks Heiskanen is better and has given excellent reasoning for his opinion. You've had success (with the help of cheating, meddling, changing rules/not changing rules to the detriment of the league, situational advantage, zero relevant hardships, manipulation of skater starts, etc.) but do you impress me in any meaningful way? Not even a little bit. Maybe if you gave me credit my attitude would be different but you never have and since you shit talk me and my ability consistently you just look like a total fool to me. A scared fool. I'm as elite as fantasy managers get, alright? How can I take you seriously? For real? At the end of the day, I'm better than you...and you know it! 😎 PS: Jeff - Rad Wangs is gonna smash you! Cheeeeeeeeeeeers! 🍻 Fix your signature Carter Hart is Washington Capital property
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Mar 22, 2023 9:56:08 GMT -5
Fix your signature Carter Hart is Washington Capital property Sorry man! I've been meaning to change up my avatar/signature for some time now, I have an idea of what I want to do but just need to find the time to do it. No excuses, I've been fucking lazy with this! 😣
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Mar 22, 2023 11:10:00 GMT -5
Fix your signature Carter Hart is Washington Capital property Sorry man! I've been meaning to change up my avatar/signature for some time now, I have an idea of what I want to do but just need to find the time to do it. No excuses, I've been fucking lazy with this! 😣 Laziness has no place in this league….be better am I doing this right?
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Mar 22, 2023 11:22:40 GMT -5
Laziness has no place in this league….be better am I doing this right? 😆 Yes, yes you are.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Mar 22, 2023 20:11:36 GMT -5
Nobody who actually knew hockey would shit talk one of the best young elite defensemen in the league. You don't give any credit, why? Fear. It's not like Daniel - Canucks thinks Hughes sucks like you've implied of Heiskanen, he just thinks Heiskanen is better and has given excellent reasoning for his opinion. I never said Heiskanen sucks. I said he was inconsistent. The "reasoning" Daniel - Canucks provided was cherry-picked from a small sample size to present his player in the best light possible ignoring the larger sample size.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Mar 22, 2023 21:16:02 GMT -5
Nobody who actually knew hockey would shit talk one of the best young elite defensemen in the league. You don't give any credit, why? Fear. It's not like Daniel - Canucks thinks Hughes sucks like you've implied of Heiskanen, he just thinks Heiskanen is better and has given excellent reasoning for his opinion. I never said Heiskanen sucks. I said he was inconsistent. The "reasoning" Daniel - Canucks provided was cherry-picked from a small sample size to present his player in the best light possible ignoring the larger sample size. Isn't this what you did though to discredit him? That stretch was during the All-Star Break as well. Heiskanen is currently on an 11-game point streak where he's scored 19 points. Besides, doesn't that mean Heiskanen has been that much more impressive over the rest of the year, almost 20 weeks now, despite that one cold stretch? Daniel - Canucks is looking at the entire year and so am I.
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Post by Daniel - Canucks on Mar 22, 2023 22:26:55 GMT -5
Fix your signature Carter Hart is Washington Capital property Sorry man! I've been meaning to change up my avatar/signature for some time now, I have an idea of what I want to do but just need to find the time to do it. No excuses, I've been fucking lazy with this! 😣 Some people have the likes of these monstrosities as their avatars/logos... (You guys might not want to click to enlarge these! 🤭🤣) ...so I wouldn't worry too much, however I'm looking forward to the update!
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Post by Daniel - Canucks on Mar 22, 2023 22:36:41 GMT -5
Nobody who actually knew hockey would shit talk one of the best young elite defensemen in the league. You don't give any credit, why? Fear. It's not like Daniel - Canucks thinks Hughes sucks like you've implied of Heiskanen, he just thinks Heiskanen is better and has given excellent reasoning for his opinion. The "reasoning" Daniel - Canucks provided was cherry-picked from a small sample size to present his player in the best light possible ignoring the larger sample size. How does this sentence make any sense? Please elaborate. I literally "cherry picked" the largest sample size possible, the entire season. What I provided was 100% factual statistics. Not the opinions of Arun Srinivasa where his arguments aren't Fantasy based. No, I'm not talking about comparing previous seasons, like I've stated in the chat box. As per your argument with Valimaki, I'm comparing the two "since his usage has increased" to QB1.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Mar 22, 2023 23:00:45 GMT -5
Sorry man! I've been meaning to change up my avatar/signature for some time now, I have an idea of what I want to do but just need to find the time to do it. No excuses, I've been fucking lazy with this! 😣 Some people have the likes of these monstrosities as their avatars/logos... (You guys might not want to click to enlarge these! 🤭🤣) ...so I wouldn't worry too much, however I'm looking forward to the update! Hey! I don't hold myself to those standards, alright? So using it to make me feel better doesn't work duuude! 😝
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Mar 22, 2023 23:36:52 GMT -5
The "reasoning" Daniel - Canucks provided was cherry-picked from a small sample size to present his player in the best light possible ignoring the larger sample size. How does this sentence make any sense? Please elaborate. I literally "cherry picked" the largest sample size possible, the entire season. What I provided was 100% factual statistics. Not the opinions of Arun Srinivasa where his arguments aren't Fantasy based. No, I'm not talking about comparing previous seasons, like I've stated in the chat box. As per your argument with Valimaki, I'm comparing the two "since his usage has increased" to QB1. Yahoo Rank for the season does not take into account when a player scores his points. It is simply aggregate data in its simplest form. It matters WHEN those points are accrued in a head to head league. A player ranked 1 in the league who has 96 points over the course of two weeks is FAR less valuable than a player ranked 22 who has 80 points consistently over 21 weeks. A player who has 96 points in two weeks wins you two weeks. A player who has 80 points over 21 weeks wins you 21 weeks, or at the very least makes a more significant contribution over the course of 21 weeks and puts you in a much better position to win those weeks. That is my argument. I say "cherry-picked" because you conveniently waited until after Heiskanen went on a 2 week hot streak to compare him to Hughes. If you were to have tried to make the same argument before the hot streak using Yahoo rank it would have been a joke because Heiskanen would have been 100-150 spots lower due to his inconsistency.
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