Restricted Free Agents signed by Multiple Teams

[Derrick - Senators]

Please vote for how this discrepancy should be handled.

[Chris - Capitals]

I think if we move to change the rule from what it is its just going to make this less realistic. Because what we'd be doing is making it so that if a few teams put in a bid for the same player that means it goes to a draft, if thats the case then why have the FA period at all before the drafting? Our rules state that 1st post gets the man, why change it?

[Robyn - Flames]

It's obviously to my benefit to have these players enter the waiver/prospect draft, but I really have to go with the rule as stated in our rulebook. It's acceptable to alter rules through voting procedures for all future interpretations of the law, but we cannot alter an existing ruling that's already occured. It would be unfair and raise questions on the integrity of the league. The players that were signed first should be the full property of the qualifying manager.

[Nos - Sharks]

At first I was all for giving it to the person who signed the player first via the last 10 posts but then I thought about if players were signed at the exact same second, who would be first on the list? It'd be randomized. Furthermore, if there is no record of it now all we have to go by is the word of a couple managers. I didn't personally see the last 10 posts before they ditched out, is there any way to see before that? I'd like to see for myself. Or if anybody has a screenshot? If the commodity in question is that hot I think it only benefits the entire league to place that player in a draft where he's fair game for everybody and not just the members up at midnight.

[Chris - Capitals]

Jun 3, 2008 18:22:09 GMT -5 Nos - Sharks said:

If the commodity in question is that hot I think it only benefits the entire league to place that player in a draft where he's fair game for everybody and not just the members up at midnight.

Maybe we should just change the time the FA signings begin then.
And if you go to the profile for different posters at the bottom you can change how far back you can view there post

[Andrew]

Jun 3, 2008 18:22:09 GMT -5 Nos - Sharks said:

At first I was all for giving it to the person who signed the player first via the last 10 posts but then I thought about if players were signed at the exact same second, who would be first on the list? It'd be randomized. Furthermore, if there is no record of it now all we have to go by is the word of a couple managers. I didn't personally see the last 10 posts before they ditched out, is there any way to see before that? I'd like to see for myself. Or if anybody has a screenshot? If the commodity in question is that hot I think it only benefits the entire league to place that player in a draft where he's fair game for everybody and not just the members up at midnight.

If all the posts were made at the exact same second (unlikely), I would guess that the forum would take note of half seconds or quarter seconds and so on to decide who was in first. As for a screenshot, Mark mentioned that he has one of the 10 recent posts at the time.

I'm all for a rule change here, but I think it would be a terrible idea to change the rule after the signings have taken place. It could set a bad precedent for future rule changes, drafts, etc.

[Nos - Sharks]

Jun 5, 2008 16:52:30 GMT -5 Andrew said:

Jun 3, 2008 18:22:09 GMT -5 Nos - Sharks said:

At first I was all for giving it to the person who signed the player first via the last 10 posts but then I thought about if players were signed at the exact same second, who would be first on the list? It'd be randomized. Furthermore, if there is no record of it now all we have to go by is the word of a couple managers. I didn't personally see the last 10 posts before they ditched out, is there any way to see before that? I'd like to see for myself. Or if anybody has a screenshot? If the commodity in question is that hot I think it only benefits the entire league to place that player in a draft where he's fair game for everybody and not just the members up at midnight.

If all the posts were made at the exact same second (unlikely), I would guess that the forum would take note of half seconds or quarter seconds and so on to decide who was in first. As for a screenshot, Mark mentioned that he has one of the 10 recent posts at the time.

I'm all for a rule change here, but I think it would be a terrible idea to change the rule after the signings have taken place. It could set a bad precedent for future rule changes, drafts, etc.

Is this forum capable of measuring milliseconds? I know for a fact that I sent in my post as soon as it struck, I even had timers set (haha) and I still didn't get it in first? Seems strange. If there is a screenshot available then I think, legally (rulebooks are law!), there's nothing else we should be able to do. Andrew signed them and I wouldn't be against giving him the players especially since it was the original rule. Although instances like these weren't accounted for. Personally I feel entering a hot commodity into a draft is better for the league as a whole and we should implement that rule for the following off-season.