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Post by Derrick - Senators on Feb 27, 2012 16:03:16 GMT -5
After failing to meet minimum goalie starts this past week (with players available on its roster to meet requirements), coupled with the ongoing issue of roster mismanagement earlier in the season, the Boston Bruins have (generously) officially been stripped of its 2012 5th Round Waiver Pick as detailed in the rules above.
Any subsequent infraction will result in the loss of a 2012 1st Round Entry pick (in question) AND a 2012 3rd Round Waiver Pick.
This roster mismanagement is having a significant impact on the standings (especially those fighting for the final couple playoff spots), not to mention a significant impact on the lottery system that has been implemented for the Entry Draft and will not be tolerated.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 27, 2012 16:40:12 GMT -5
So funny that you decide to do this during my week against him. I'm enjoying you running scared. This was an issue that should have been dealt with much earlier.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 27, 2012 17:00:21 GMT -5
You just love to have anything turn into its all about you dont you Nos.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 27, 2012 17:17:58 GMT -5
You love swinging from my balls don't you Chris?
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Feb 27, 2012 17:25:58 GMT -5
So funny that you decide to do this during my week against him. I'm enjoying you running scared. This was an issue that should have been dealt with much earlier. I can't punish someone for an act until it happens. Go ahead and keep thinking that you are far more important than you really are. I just lost 2-9 and I am still up by 17 points on you. Your team is insignificant to me and I am anything but scared. After all, I am not the one scrambling to make a million deadline deals....or streaming/picking up players late in the week in match-ups I am already winning....and on and on. Believe it or not, I am actually more concerned about the leagues well-being, competitiveness, and overall fun-factor than I am about my team. You know, thinking about the greatest good for the greatest number of people. A tough concept for you to grasp, I know, considering you are only capable of thinking of yourself. Not only will "tanking" not be tolerated, but having you follow me (or anybody else) around making ignorant off-topic statements trying to incite conflict will not be tolerated either. |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 27, 2012 18:23:33 GMT -5
I can't punish someone for an act until it happens. Go ahead and keep thinking that you are far more important than you really are. I just lost 2-9 and I am still up by 17 points on you. Your team is insignificant to me and I am anything but scared. After all, I am not the one scrambling to make a million deadline deals....or streaming/picking up players late in the week in match-ups I am already winning....and on and on. What in God's name are you talking about? Mark has been benching players all season long, I even messaged you detailing my concerns with it earlier in the year. If that isn't looking out for the best interests of the league I don't know what is. You decide in Week 20 to issue a warning and strip a pick? So he loses the 5th Waiver Pick but locks up 2nd overall. A million deadline deals? I've picked up Hartnell and Vrbata, you've picked up Selanne, Byfuglien and Marchand. Streaming/picking up players has already been detailed, I don't know what you're talking about, about the same as you calling up Stepan for Marchand in our week. I intend to keep Henrique on my roster until I see a noticeable change in Skinner's play. Believe it or not, I am actually more concerned about the leagues well-being, competitiveness, and overall fun-factor than I am about my team. You know, thinking about the greatest good for the greatest number of people. A tough concept for you to grasp, I know, considering you are only capable of thinking of yourself. Don't bullshit me. You're way more concerned with your own team, all of us are, I understand you're a mediator and Commissioner of the league, having to make decisions and whatnot but you're telling me that means more to you than your team? This is what we play for. If you really felt that way you'd start selling off your 'beast' team to some of the lower placed teams, creating more parity, but you aren't going to do that. Also, if you were really concerned with competitiveness you would have taken Mark aside earlier than this. Not only will "tanking" not be tolerated, but having you follow me (or anybody else) around making ignorant off-topic statements trying to incite conflict will not be tolerated either. Who am I following around Derrick? For real? Chris is the one that hit me here first, I hit back. Same goes for that trade thread, I was attacked and I finished it. I'm not going to take shit. The last thing I want to do is incite conflict. Trash talk you should be able to take but if you want me to shut my mouth from here on out, give the word and I will. |
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Feb 27, 2012 22:32:29 GMT -5
After failing to meet minimum goalie starts this past week (with players available on its roster to meet requirements), coupled with the ongoing issue of roster mismanagement earlier in the season, the Boston Bruins have (generously) officially been stripped of its 2012 5th Round Waiver Pick as detailed in the rules above. This is bull. Take a look at my roster & I haven't had players benched in favor of inactive guys for a very long time. I set my lineup at the start of the week and for the most part forget about it until the following matchup (I may occasionally be late to set up lineups on Monday... so it can be hit/miss on those days). This issue was addressed early in the season and for the most part taken care of by me. I don't have a ton of time to spend analyzing match-ups or researching what a goalie's record is after eating Chinese food when there's a full moon the night before a game. I set up my goalie lineups once a week and its not my fault one of my guys turns up DTD or a guy gets benched. I set up each day to have a goalie with the potential to play that night. If you want to tell me who I can and can't start on my team, I'll be happy to step aside to let the league run my team. I have other things that take up my time and frequently mentioned fantasy hockey has gone down on my list of priorities the past year or two. If you feel like I'm not *active* enough because other teams are complaining they want a better draft pick or because I'm playing Nos this week, I'll be happy to throw away the fact I'm one of the few original members of this league and quit. Besides, if I wanted to tank my season, why wouldn't I just bench my best players all the time? Karlsson would still be in the minors (he's only at 198 games played), Tavares would ride the bench all the time (he never does), and Price would never see a start (I played Price every opportunity I could last week). The 5th rd waiver pick should still belong to me. |
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 27, 2012 22:43:04 GMT -5
Well. I was involved in trade talks during the weekend with Mark and he did mention in one of the messages concerning trade possibilities that he's really busy and might take time to reply.
I don't believe he meant to finish under the goalie start minimum in the matchup vs Winnipeg. The fact that it happened might have big concequences though as the race for the final playoff spot is extremely tight and Winnipeg would have lost that matchup if Mike Smith was started.
I certainly am not happy that Winnipeg got free points in the playoff race, but I don't think the finishing under the start minimum was intentional either.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 27, 2012 22:52:01 GMT -5
Its happened in the past, also he stated to me earlier this season that he wouldn't be trading his first overall pick because and I quote "I can guarantee that this pick will be 1st overall" I mean I get that you dont always have time but the ruling is clear, on top of which it was addressed earlier this year.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 27, 2012 22:54:06 GMT -5
Oh and if that comment about other managers worried about there picks was directed at me your wrong Im not worried about it being that Im 20 pts below you in the standings and havent been trying to tank.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Feb 27, 2012 22:58:32 GMT -5
Its happened in the past, also he stated to me earlier this season that he wouldn't be trading his first overall pick because and I quote "I can guarantee that this pick will be 1st overall" I mean I get that you dont always have time but the ruling is clear, on top of which it was addressed earlier this year. Lol, good memory Chris. I'll admit I made that comment... towards the start of the season. I came into the season looking to continue dismantling my team for prospects (I had just gutted away Hossa, Byfuglien, Staal, Sedin, no quality goalie besides Price, and was looking at making more deals towards the future). Virtually EVERY gm in the "season rankings" put me at the bottom of the list. When everyone thinks you're gonna suck, is it wrong to think I'm going to suck? You kept low-balling me offers for that pick spouting circular logic & I was just emphasizing its value to me and it had a good chance of landing the top spot. |
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Feb 27, 2012 23:00:27 GMT -5
I don't have a ton of time to spend analyzing match-ups or researching what a goalie's record is after eating Chinese food when there's a full moon the night before a game. I set up my goalie lineups once a week and its not my fault one of my guys turns up DTD or a guy gets benched. I set up each day to have a goalie with the potential to play that night. If you want to tell me who I can and can't start on my team, I'll be happy to step aside to let the league run my team. 1. Jimmy Howard had returned from injury BEFORE you set your lineup on Monday, thus making Joey Macdonald irrelevant for the upcoming week. 2. Khabibulin hasn't played for over a week and was injured on SUNDAY before you set your lineup on Monday, and certainly before the following Saturday when he was in your lineup. 3. Even when healthy, nobody starts either one of these two over Mike Smith (on Saturday which caused you to miss making minimum goalie starts) who has won TEN straight games, setting your lineup once, twice, or seven times a week. I don't care the situation. It isn't going to happen if you are making an honest effort to ice the best team possible. I can understand if maybe one of these were to occur in a given week that caused you to miss making minimum goalie starts, but not all three, sorry. While I hate to see managers go, especially original ones, you are not going to threaten me with resignation if I do not rescind punishment (which is how I interpret your post) YOU were responsible for, whether accidental or not. If you wish to leave over this, that is your choice, just let me know. But the ruling still stands. |
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 27, 2012 23:01:01 GMT -5
You kept low-balling me offers for that pick spouting circular logic & I was just emphasizing its value to me and it had a good chance of landing the top spot. Negotiations have to start somewhere  |
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Feb 27, 2012 23:02:40 GMT -5
You kept low-balling me offers for that pick spouting circular logic & I was just emphasizing its value to me and it had a good chance of landing the top spot. Negotiations have to start somewhere I don't hold that against you  |
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Feb 27, 2012 23:36:26 GMT -5
One of your team's most valuable players comes back early from a big injury and your first reaction is to play him every chance you get? I figured MacDonald would get at least some spot-starts (he'd be practically guaranteed victory if he plays considering Detroit's recent streak) since the Wings have enough faith in him to cut Conklin a week ago.
Nice vague stat. I didn't see Khabibulin injured when I played him that week. Khabi was on the ice Feb 8, 11, 15, & 19 (the Sun before last week's matchup). So the guy plays a ton of games the previous week & I'm not supposed to start him the following week? Just because he doesn't show up as DTD on yahoo until after I set my lineup isn't my fault. I already mentioned I usually "set & forget" my lineup once a week.
I'll admit I dropped the ball on Smith. I didn't look into the stats at that time. I usually look at a combination of home/road, opponent, and gut feeling.
That's an over-simplified statement. Why not penalize Jason every time he decides to start Steve Mason (worst statistical goalie in the league) or Tyler for carrying Ville Leino (y-ranking 588) on his roster instead of dropping him for a higher y-ranked UFA who has produced more this season? (Note to Jason + Tyler, I'm not trying to pick on you or your teams... just trying to make a point to Derrick).
Its not a threat to rescind this punishment. Rescinding it was a request based on my previous argument. It's a threat against you trying to bully teams in the future.
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So exciting.
You better make that pick or trade it! I'm excited to see if we can use up all the draft picks this year.