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Post by Hawks on Mar 13, 2013 8:50:34 GMT -5
There was previously some discussion about potentially adding additional scoring categories to the league. Obviously this just serves as a preliminary poll to gauge GM support of the idea. Some of the categories that were discussed were Hits, Shots Blocked, and Points. If the support is there, we can then move forward in discussing exactly which categories.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Mar 13, 2013 9:57:15 GMT -5
Would certainly like to see extended categories in the future.
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Mar 13, 2013 10:26:24 GMT -5
I vote for more categories I think we could add 3 and not effect integrity of the league. We should put up 5-7 additional categories and have GM's rank them 1-3 The categories with most 1st 2nd 3rd votes get added. Just an idea huge supporter of more statistics.
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Post by Hawks on Mar 13, 2013 10:31:24 GMT -5
Which ever one of you accessed via mobile (Tyler usually does I believe) can you be sure to vote on the poll whenever you access via computer?
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Mar 13, 2013 13:10:47 GMT -5
I like Tylers idea of how to figure which ones to use. I say we add three Hits, Blocks and Saves for goalies
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Post by Robyn - Flames on Mar 13, 2013 13:20:10 GMT -5
Hits and Blocks are very subjective categories as the home team tracks these numbers. I'm sure there's a statistic out there that consistently shows more hits in one building over another.
As per saves, we already have 33% (4 of 12) of the statistics being generated by 11% of our roster (2 of 19).
I vote to keep things as-is.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Mar 13, 2013 13:31:40 GMT -5
Hits and Blocks are very subjective categories as the home team tracks these numbers. I'm sure there's a statistic out there that consistently shows more hits in one building over another. As per saves, we already have 33% (4 of 12) of the statistics being generated by 11% of our roster (2 of 19). I vote to keep things as-is. I understand that thought process completely the same could be said for FO wins on ties and other suggested additions. However I do feel that if we added any stats to our skaters we would have to add one to the goalies as well. Adding saves would allow us to balance out some of the goalies that see a large workload but don't get the wins to show for it. |
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Mar 13, 2013 14:04:35 GMT -5
I really like Shootout goals, face off wins, Saves and Blocks.
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Post by Hawks on Mar 14, 2013 7:10:50 GMT -5
Vote bitches!
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Mar 14, 2013 9:10:35 GMT -5
I'm kind of torn on this issue, I know I was the one to first speak up about it but at the time I more wanted the entire league to agree (in the off-season) rather than force something via poll. We need to go over this thoughtfully. For instance, Robyn says certain arenas count statistics differently (not sure why this would be) but is there any info to confirm or deny this claim? The other thought I had was with how much we value goaltenders. A little too much in my opinion. If we were to implement extra categories, in my opinion, it would have to be with 2 extra skater categories or 4 skater categories and 1 goaltending category to even things out a bit more. I don't like adding 3 skater categories because of the odd number '11' it would present. That's a personal qualm though it also presents a problem with the 'evening' of skater/goaltender statistics. I think 2-0 or 4-1 evens things up a lot better personally.
If we're adding 2 categories I like PTS and FOW, if 4 I like Hits and Bks in addition, SV for goaltending. I'm gonna hold off on voting until more people chime in with opinions and 'research'. I'm fine with how things are as well. I don't think things would change too drastically with extra categories, defensive stats are worthy of attention, it could create tougher competition throughout the league, more to fight for and more to fight with, it might be a lot of fun.
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Post by Hawks on Mar 14, 2013 9:37:06 GMT -5
Nos I agree 100%. Just to be clear (I think I was in my original description), I didn't start this poll to "force something via poll". My idea for this poll was strictly to gauge interest.
Robyn pointed out the issue of stats being counted differently depending on the building, which may or may not be true. Regardless, I don't see that as offering an advantage to any one GM over another. Therefore, it is not much of a concern in my opinion.
I don't see how adding a couple "defensive" categories could be anything but good for the competition of the league. It allows Gms to reap the benefits of acquiring players that play a well-rounded game. Anyways, that's my two cents for today.
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Mar 14, 2013 10:11:14 GMT -5
This poll is to see who is interested in having more categories. We can decide on the how many and which ones in off season. I understand and agree with what Nos is saying. I am ok with 2 skater categories being added to balance out how valuable goalies are currently.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Mar 14, 2013 11:15:47 GMT -5
It is true I've read about it previously somewhere ill try to dig up the article
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Post by Glenn - Wild on Mar 14, 2013 11:45:58 GMT -5
I honestly could go either way on this. If we do add more i would not want to see more then 3 added. Having more then 15 categories is too many in my opinion. So I kinda agree with Nos that only 2 should be added if any. Im also totally game to keep it the way it is.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Mar 14, 2013 16:49:09 GMT -5
The only way we will be adding categories is if we re-draft our entire teams. And I am adamant in that stance. GM's have been building their teams for 6+ years to the specific categories of the league, assuming that they would not change. Any person that honestly argues that adding categories "doesn't make that much of a difference" should not be a GM because he or she clearly does not understand the dynamics of fantasy sports and/or building a solid team. That is all I have to say on the subject.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Mar 14, 2013 17:07:15 GMT -5
The only way we will be adding categories is if we re-draft our entire teams. And I am adamant in that stance. GM's have been building their teams for 6+ years to the specific categories of the league, assuming that they would not change. Any person that honestly argues that adding categories "doesn't make that much of a difference" should not be a GM because he or she clearly does not understand the dynamics of fantasy sports and/or building a solid team. That is all I have to say on the subject. Of course changing categories would make a difference. Who has actually argued anything otherwise? Or are you just making things up, again? |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Mar 14, 2013 19:53:31 GMT -5
The only way we will be adding categories is if we re-draft our entire teams. And I am adamant in that stance. GM's have been building their teams for 6+ years to the specific categories of the league, assuming that they would not change. Any person that honestly argues that adding categories "doesn't make that much of a difference" should not be a GM because he or she clearly does not understand the dynamics of fantasy sports and/or building a solid team. That is all I have to say on the subject. There's no need to push such drastic 'scare' tactics. I understand the dynamics of fantasy sports better than anybody here and I've built a dominant unbeatable team and still believe adding categories wouldn't 'break' the league and its franchises. It makes a difference, yes, but not to the extent you're thinking. GM's have been building their teams for 6+ years to specific rules that included the trading of keeper slots until this off-season. That was changed, to the disadvantage of many teams, adding categories could be different. Rules change, doesn't mean the league has to disband because of a rule/league change. The only way we will be adding categories is if 2/3 of the league agrees with the change. Having said that, I'll vote to keep it the same. Clearly there's a divide and I certainly don't want that, I'd rather everybody was on board. |
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Mar 14, 2013 19:56:40 GMT -5
Clearly there's a divide and I certainly don't want that, I'd rather everybody was on board. Go hug a tree & sing kumbaya, you hippe  |
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Post by Hawks on Mar 15, 2013 7:30:01 GMT -5
Votes don't matter in this league anymore.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Mar 15, 2013 8:29:55 GMT -5
Votes don't matter in this league anymore. I don't think that's true. I just feel with something as major as changing the league scoring system (at its heart, how the league works), we need a significant number of managers to be fine with making the changes. It seems like there are many managers who don't want the changes & a few who are passionately against it. With such an opposition, it might be best to not make changes to the existing system (at this moment) |
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So exciting.
You better make that pick or trade it! I'm excited to see if we can use up all the draft picks this year.