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Post by patriot0103 on Jun 7, 2007 1:30:08 GMT -5
Was talking with Nos about our teams, and we ended up discussing player productions next season. Just some predictions we made that we want to post and come back to next year for the fun of it.
My predictions:
Milan Michalek <80 points next season
Rick Nash <80 points next season
Alexander the Great outpoints Sid the Kid next season
Nos' Predictions:
Milan Michalek = or > 80 points
Rick Nash = or > 80 points
Sid the Kid outpoints Ovy
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 7, 2007 1:53:18 GMT -5
I agree with these, I think it's pretty cut and dry.  Feel free to add your own predictions. |
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Post by Andrew on Jun 7, 2007 3:01:09 GMT -5
Jesse's going 2 for 3  |
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Jun 7, 2007 8:09:45 GMT -5
Jesse, right on the nose with those predictions (except Ovy won't outscore Sid, the others should happen)
i also have a few predictions for next season:
Eric Staal >90 points
Alex Radulov >=35g
Ryan Getzlaf >=75 points
Dion Phaneuf will become a celestial being
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Post by patriot0103 on Jun 7, 2007 8:31:30 GMT -5
Haha, I knew nobody would buy the Sid one, but seriously. Everyone thinks that the kid is untouchable now. I just think Backstrom centering him instead of Zubrus/Novonty is about as big of an upgrade as you can ask for. I really think he can keep up with Sid.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Jun 7, 2007 9:28:08 GMT -5
Haha, I knew nobody would buy the Sid one, but seriously. Everyone thinks that the kid is untouchable now. I just think Backstrom centering him instead of Zubrus/Novonty is about as big of an upgrade as you can ask for. I really think he can keep up with Sid. Sid scored 120 playing with Malkin only part of the time. Last I checked, Malkin > Backstrom. I think Ovechkin has the chance/ability to keep up with Crosby, just not next season. Give Backstrom some room to grow, a 2nd line to take off pressure, and I think it could happen. |
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Post by patriot0103 on Jun 7, 2007 10:03:50 GMT -5
Haha, I knew nobody would buy the Sid one, but seriously. Everyone thinks that the kid is untouchable now. I just think Backstrom centering him instead of Zubrus/Novonty is about as big of an upgrade as you can ask for. I really think he can keep up with Sid. Sid scored 120 playing with Malkin only part of the time. Last I checked, Malkin > Backstrom. I think Ovechkin has the chance/ability to keep up with Crosby, just not next season. Give Backstrom some room to grow, a 2nd line to take off pressure, and I think it could happen. I still don't think it's as cut and dry as people seem to think. Things change from year to year. Obviously Malkin > Backstrom, but that's fairly irrelevant...doesn't change the fact that Backstrom>>>Zubrus/Novotny (Novotny is a 4th liner, could develop to be better, but he's not yet). Not saying Ovy is a lock to beat Sid next year, but I do think it's going to happen. I also expect the Sid-Malkin situation to be similar to how it was this yr. Sure they only played together part of the time, but they usually like splitting them up at even strength and I don't think that's going to change. Only time will tell. |
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Jun 7, 2007 10:19:14 GMT -5
Not saying Ovy is a lock to beat Sid next year, but I do think it's going to happen. I also expect the Sid-Malkin situation to be similar to how it was this yr. Sure they only played together part of the time, but they usually like splitting them up at even strength and I don't think that's going to change. Only time will tell. I, too, agree that Ovechkin will beat out Crosby, just not next year. I think it will happen once Backstrom gets a few years under his belt. |
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jun 7, 2007 14:14:17 GMT -5
as things stand right now, because there is no way to predict free agent signing and/or trades...
Milan Michalek 80 pts - haha
Michalek has reached his "ceiling" and totaled about as many points that is physically possible for him in San Jose unless given a full year with Thornton (highly unlikely in San Jose) You can't play much more than the 18-20 minutes he is currently playing. it is fairly obvious we are dealing with a case of "dependentgamelogitis." *see demitra, cheechoo, gagne*
With Thornton 18 G 27 A 45 PTS in 39 games played
Without Thornton 8 G 13 A 21 PTS in 39 games played
We all know how infamous the Line Shuffle is in Socal and given the logjam at forward (Bernier, Marleau, Thornton, Pavelski, Guerin, Setoguchi, Cheechoo, Bell, Clowe, Grier, etc etc) there just arent enough points to go around rolling 3 scoring lines. *see Buffalo* (had only a couple of players total more than 40 points 2 seasons ago) Drury and Briere have comparable roles to that of Thornton and Marleau. The two "focal" points of the offense distributing the points evenly amongst the plethora of forwards. Michalek is not a superstar, sorry. *sigh* its the same thing every year. CHEECHOO! CHEECHOO! Maurice Richard would be rolling over in his grave.
Rick Nash 80 pts - haha
Nash gets 80 points when Nash scores 64 goals...both of which i don't see happening. Nash's assists count can strictly be attributed to how many times a goalie saves his initial shot and a teammate knocks in the rebound or puts in a garbage goal.
JOE THORNTON outpoints "Sid the Kid"
Which should be the general consensus all things considered. Past 2 seasons...
Thornton - 51 G 188 A 239 PTS +55 105 PIMS 106 PPP 2 SHP 11 GWG
Crosby - 75 G 147 A 222 PTS +9 170 PIMS 108 PPP 2 SHP 9 GWG
More predictions:
Manny Fernandez gets traded away from Uncle Jacques and goes to a team that can showcase his true "talent"
...2.94 .896
Dominik Hasek returns to the Red Wings for his 76th season where he leads them to a Stanley Cup.
Cheechoo and Gionta FINALLY come back down to earth and start playing like.....
...oh wait, nevermind.
Anyway, this is just another classic case of Nose trying to build his confidence and overhype players (which of course are all owned by him.)
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Jun 7, 2007 16:13:45 GMT -5
Anyway, this is just another classic case of Nose trying to build his confidence and overhype players (which of course are all owned by him.) Nose? Is the 'e' silent? Also, I always wondered if Nos was short for something... Nostradamus? |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 7, 2007 18:30:06 GMT -5
Pshaa! Just another case of managers undervaluing players not sitting on their roster. I seem to remember Derrick eating out of Michalek's asshole for the better part of the past two years. He's certainly not a dependant player like Cheechoo, he has major skill, anybody who denies that is a fool. 66 points last year playing less than half the year with Thornton, I don't think 14 extra points is a ridiculous prediction, especially when you consider playing with Thornton near the end of the year and in the playoffs worked out well and Michalek's upside to improve.
Nash is awesome and has become a well rounded player in the past year. I wonder if Derrick has even watched him play the game.
Sid the kid speaks for himself.
Also, I knew this would happen! Jesse pressured me into it, it's a trap!
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Post by patriot0103 on Jun 7, 2007 18:36:42 GMT -5
Also, I knew this would happen! Jesse pressured me into it, it's a trap! Haha, stop. I didn't pressure you into anything. All I said was let's post it for the fun of it so we can come back to it, and see who was right with the predictions. Otherwise, in one year, I'll have no recollection that we even discussed these. I highly doubt anyone cares that their all your players, and I'm pretty confident that nobody perceives it as being arrogant and favoring your own players. Most of us, if not all of us, overvalue players we like as well. |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 7, 2007 18:43:22 GMT -5
It was a joke, I don't really care.
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Post by Hawks on Jun 7, 2007 19:46:09 GMT -5
I would like to think that Ovie will outscore Crosby next season, however, last I read, The caps are looking to have Backstrom centering semin's line, not ovie's...Who knows, maybe it'll change.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Jun 7, 2007 22:21:24 GMT -5
as a huge Caps fan i can confirm the above all reports out of caps camp has Backstrom C'ing for Semins line with a veteran RW for D support whose supposably getting picked up via trade/UFA
Only time Backs and AO are getting time together is going to be late in the game when they need a goal or 2 and on the PP
but never know they could go into training camp and find amazing chemistry then how do you not put him on the top line? only thing that could happen is that huge deal there going to throw out for a UFA C for the top line would get pissed because Backs would take his spot
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Jun 7, 2007 22:26:00 GMT -5
Nash is awesome and has become a well rounded player in the past year. I wonder if Derrick has even watched him play the game. I double checked the rules, but I can't find the stats category that gives points for being "well rounded"  |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jun 8, 2007 1:59:03 GMT -5
Nash is awesome and has become a well rounded player in the past year. I wonder if Derrick has even watched him play the game. I double checked the rules, but I can't find the stats category that gives points for being "well rounded" Ahh, what I meant was that he doesn't have a one track mind (goals) anymore. He can produce in different ways (assists) and he's also been made a more responsible player, shows maturity and a willingness to improve his game beyond what comes naturally. I expect him to have a breakout year. |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Aug 27, 2007 4:14:54 GMT -5
Anybody feeling foolish yet?
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Post by patriot0103 on Aug 27, 2007 21:11:35 GMT -5
No...but if anyone should be it's you.
Mine are still locks except for Ovy/Sid.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Aug 28, 2007 4:08:50 GMT -5
Ha, I'm pretty sure Michalek is a lock for me.
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Feel free to add your own predictions.
So exciting.
You better make that pick or trade it! I'm excited to see if we can use up all the draft picks this year.