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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 14, 2012 0:52:19 GMT -5
Only seeing what you want to see, I see. Nah, seeing what's actually there, in plain sight. You should try it sometime. I lol'd at Derrick's commercial. I 'lol'd' too Mark, that should be in his head after this trade was completed: To Washington: Dany Heatley Niklas Backstrom Michael Grabner To Ottawa: Anze Kopitar Pekka Rinne 2011 1st Round Waiver Marchand for Gardiner too but, you know, whatever...
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 14, 2012 0:54:03 GMT -5
Only seeing what you want to see, I see. Nah, seeing what's actually there, in plain sight. You should try it sometime. I lol'd at Derrick's commercial. I 'lol'd' too Mark, that should be in his head after this trade was completed: To Washington: Dany Heatley Niklas Backstrom Michael Grabner To Ottawa: Anze Kopitar Pekka Rinne 2011 1st Round Waiver Marchand for Gardiner too but, you know, whatever... Says the guy that offered his trash for Toffoli and in a seperate offer asked for me to take Nash off him for what it looking more and more like a #1 pick in the upcoming draft
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 14, 2012 1:09:54 GMT -5
Trash? You have since picked up 1 of the 3 players I offered. Your prospect cupboards are bare, thought you'd gain from a trade like that. I was shopping Nash, stopped now because of how shortsighted most managers are in this league and the value simply isn't there. Nash was a #1 overall selection and I stand by what I said about Yakupov being lucky to be as good as Nash. Think about this, who's in last place right now? By a lot? It's Columbus, Columbus is going to get that #1 overall selection and who do you think is gonna play with Yakupov? With Ryan Johansen also in the wings and Columbus set to host the All-Star game next season they're looking to turn the corner, I'm more than comfortable keeping Nash, I'm actually surprised I was entertaining offers for him if I'm being honest.
That trade you made was garbage, this was another garbage trade you made:
To Washington:
Brad Richards Linus Omark 2011 3rd Round Waiver (30th Overall)
To Anaheim:
Tyler Seguin Jordan Eberle
You ruined that team, Derrick fleeced you on both deals, live with it.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Feb 14, 2012 1:23:23 GMT -5
Only seeing what you want to see, I see. Nah, seeing what's actually there, in plain sight. You should try it sometime. I guess if it is on the bench you don't see it? Hiller: 0.92 GAA, 23/24, .958 SV% Theodore: 1W, 1.00 GAA, 26/ 27, .963 SV% Fleischmann: 1G, 1A, 1 PPP, 1 GWG Marchand: 1 A, 1 SHP With the inclusion of these players in my lineup the matchup ends 6-4 in my favor. Omitting Marchand it is still 5-4. Omitting Theodore and Marchand it is still 4-4. Like I said, your team did nothing to beat me, I beat myself. I am not in the least bit worried about your squad come playoff time. I can smell your fear from a mile away. And it smells kind of like adding Cody McLeod mid-week when you are already winning the matchup 6-2.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 14, 2012 2:20:10 GMT -5
I guess if it is on the bench you don't see it? Hiller: 0.92 GAA, 23/24, .958 SV% Theodore: 1W, 1.00 GAA, 26/ 27, .963 SV% Fleischmann: 1G, 1A, 1 PPP, 1 GWG Marchand: 1 A, 1 SHP With the inclusion of these players in my lineup the matchup ends 6-4 in my favor. Omitting Marchand it is still 5-4. Omitting Theodore and Marchand it is still 4-4. Like I said, your team did nothing to beat me, I beat myself. I am not in the least bit worried about your squad come playoff time. I can smell your fear from a mile away. And it smells kind of like adding Cody McLeod mid-week when you are already winning the matchup 6-2. Derrick, Derr, DerrDerr, you never cease to amaze me with what you'll try to convince yourself with. These are the decisions a manager has to make throughout the week and ultimately the season, hindsight is 20/20...funny how that works. Why should I see it if it's on the bench? I guess if it's not on your bench you don't see it? Let's take a look at some other benchings: Ryan O’Reilly: 2 A, 1 PPP, 4 SOG Jonathan Quick: 1 W, 1.00 GAA, .960 SV% Brian Elliott: 1 W, 0.00 GAA, 1.000 SV% Jonathan Quick: 1.95 GAA, .920 SV% Brad Marchand? Really? He was on your farm team man, you benched him because he only had 1 game remaining on the week and you wanted Stepan's 2 games where he totaled: Derek Stepan: 1 G, 3 A, 2 PPP, 2 SOG You were only ever going to have one or the other on your roster, let's take a look at some other farm benchings: Logan Couture: 1 G, 2 A, 2 PPP, 9 SOG P.K. Subban: 1 A, +4, 2 PIM, 1 PPP, 4 SOG David Desharnais: 3 A, +3, 1 PPP Adam Henrique: 1 G, +1, 7 SOG Victor Hedman: 2 A, +1, 2 PIM, 10 SOG As far as Cody McLeod goes, the only stat I was ever in danger with was PIM, that's why I added him. I had the luxury of owning you in everything else. With all of these benchings taken into account I would have effectively schooled you 9-1 on the week. Enjoy.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 14, 2012 3:31:49 GMT -5
Trash? You have since picked up 1 of the 3 players I offered. . I was refering to the fact that you threw him away not that he was or the 3 offered was a trash player just the fact that you expect me (and everyone else) to give up a ton for players your going to trash because you know they're not worth what your asking. And we've been over this whole Yakapov vs Nash thing and im fairly confident in my opinion that he will be much better than Nash who has topped 70 pts once in his career.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 14, 2012 4:10:53 GMT -5
I was refering to the fact that you threw him away not that he was or the 3 offered was a trash player just the fact that you expect me (and everyone else) to give up a ton for players your going to trash because you know they're not worth what your asking. And we've been over this whole Yakapov vs Nash thing and im fairly confident in my opinion that he will be much better than Nash who has topped 70 pts once in his career. I didn't 'throw' anybody away, I had to release somebody to make room for somebody else. If you admit the players aren't trash why would you say that? I offered you 3 good players for 1 because I had to make room, you have room to fill. Simple really, it's not an insult, I'm not being phony about my intentions, that was the situation and I came to you asking for a trade. Tell me if that trade would have been an insult in real life. Why should I care about you being 'fairly confident in your opinion'? You're in last place and made awful trades to handicap your team for the next 3-5 years. I'm fairly confident in my opinion that your opinion is worthless.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Feb 14, 2012 12:19:34 GMT -5
Derrick, Derr, DerrDerr, you never cease to amaze me with what you'll try to convince yourself with. These are the decisions a manager has to make throughout the week and ultimately the season, hindsight is 20/20...funny how that works. Why should I see it if it's on the bench? I guess if it's not on your bench you don't see it? Let's take a look at some other benchings: Ryan O’Reilly: 2 A, 1 PPP, 4 SOG Jonathan Quick: 1 W, 1.00 GAA, .960 SV% Brian Elliott: 1 W, 0.00 GAA, 1.000 SV% Jonathan Quick: 1.95 GAA, .920 SV% Brad Marchand? Really? He was on your farm team man, you benched him because he only had 1 game remaining on the week and you wanted Stepan's 2 games where he totaled: Derek Stepan: 1 G, 3 A, 2 PPP, 2 SOG You were only ever going to have one or the other on your roster, let's take a look at some other farm benchings: Logan Couture: 1 G, 2 A, 2 PPP, 9 SOG P.K. Subban: 1 A, +4, 2 PIM, 1 PPP, 4 SOG David Desharnais: 3 A, +3, 1 PPP Adam Henrique: 1 G, +1, 7 SOG Victor Hedman: 2 A, +1, 2 PIM, 10 SOG As far as Cody McLeod goes, the only stat I was ever in danger with was PIM, that's why I added him. I had the luxury of owning you in everything else. With all of these benchings taken into account I would have effectively schooled you 9-1 on the week. Enjoy. First of all, Marchand was cited as a "benching" because he was/had been on my team for the majority of the week. None of the players you listed had been, or could be on yours without employing streaming methods. The difference between my benchings and your benchings is the fact that I WILLINGLY benched my players (Hiller, Theodore), you were forced to bench yours. There is a distinct difference between "should I bench" and "which one should I bench." And context is everything isn't it? You can't cite gaining a win had you started Quick because both your other goalies also got wins that night. Additionally, you are not going to start Brian Elliot over Roberto Luongo on a night when ELLIOT ISN'T EVEN SLATED TO START (Halak just so happened to get pulled, and Elliot fell into those stats). Nor are you realistically going to start Ryan O'Reilly over any of your other forwards on a day when you have a full lineup. There is no logical or strategical reason for doing so. Claiming otherwise would just be you being you. The ultimate point to be made here is that if you made all the "right" choices and I made all the "right" choices realistically available to us, my team would have won. I think you said it best when you said: These are the decisions a manager has to make throughout the week and ultimately the season My decisions just so happened to be a little harder than your decisions this week, and I chose wrong. Which, when given all the facts, loosely translates to "I beat myself."
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 16, 2012 23:01:29 GMT -5
First of all, Marchand was cited as a "benching" because he was/had been on my team for the majority of the week. None of the players you listed had been, or could be on yours without employing streaming methods. He was on your team for 1 game that week, let's call a spade a spade, you were playing the odds with Stepan having 2 games to Marchand's 1 remaining on the week, Stepan played like a beast there's nothing for you to be complaining about here. If you want to add Marchand's stats take away Stepan's. Again, hindsight...20/20, etc. Furthermore, every one of those players (Couture, Subban, Henrique, Desharnais) has played more games for the Sharks than Marchand has for Ottawa, they've been staples on my team throughout the year due to injury. The difference between my benchings and your benchings is the fact that I WILLINGLY benched my players (Hiller, Theodore), you were forced to bench yours. There is a distinct difference between "should I bench" and "which one should I bench." Is it my fault you have to bench your goalies because they aren't good enough to play in all situations? No. No it isn't. And context is everything isn't it? You can't cite gaining a win had you started Quick because both your other goalies also got wins that night. Sure, they all got wins (how good?) but my peripherals could have been a lot better. I 'beat myself' there boy. Additionally, you are not going to start Brian Elliot over Roberto Luongo on a night when ELLIOT ISN'T EVEN SLATED TO START (Halak just so happened to get pulled, and Elliot fell into those stats). Check this out, LUONGO WASN'T EVEN SLATED TO START! I knew that the morning of those games, I didn't know Elliott wasn't starting but elected to keep him on the bench because he was facing New Jersey and I had three (3) players from Jersey playing. I 'beat myself' there, shoot. Nor are you realistically going to start Ryan O'Reilly over any of your other forwards on a day when you have a full lineup. There is no logical or strategical reason for doing so. Claiming otherwise would just be you being you. Why wouldn't I start O'Reilly? You act like he didn't have 15 points in his last 17 games. If 'being me' means looking at every possible scenario before making snap judgements then...guilty. The ultimate point to be made here is that if you made all the "right" choices and I made all the "right" choices realistically available to us, my team would have won. Your team didn't win. 'Right choices', maybe you don't have the hockey mind you think you do. Squeeze what you can out of it to keep your sanity. My decisions just so happened to be a little harder than your decisions this week, and I chose wrong. Loosely translates to 'my goalies are unreliable'. Which, when given all the facts, loosely translates to "I beat myself." Yeah, shoot, I beat myself too...right to a 7-2 stomping of the Ottawa Senators. Quit whining. See you in the playoffs.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Feb 17, 2012 12:20:59 GMT -5
Your last response is too late to even acknowledge. Clearly you are not one to multitask. I mean come on. Its not that hard to make lopsided trades, stream players, and respond to a thread on the forum all at the same time, is it?
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 17, 2012 20:32:20 GMT -5
Your last response is too late to even acknowledge. Clearly you are not one to multitask. I mean come on. Its not that hard to make lopsided trades, stream players, and respond to a thread on the forum all at the same time, is it? Day late, dollar short? Replying to you on the forum isn't one of my top priorities, sorry. 01. You'd know all about lopsided trades. Just because you don't like a trade because your playoff hopes are being dashed doesn't make it a lopsided trade. 02. Stream players? I have 12 more moves than you on the year. I also have about 200+ man games lost due to injury over you. Am I looking for an unfair advantage? No. If anything you calling up Stepan for his 2 games over Marchand's 1 in a week where you already had significant skater games on me is looking for an unfair advantage...and it bit you in the ass. Furthermore, of all the season's we've played you've always (every year) had 10+ additional moves made over me. 03. Quit whining. This is what I saw when I read your post by the way:
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Feb 18, 2012 2:01:28 GMT -5
This is what I saw when I read your post by the way: So...what you are trying to say is that you see yourself hugging my neck whilst in your underwear??? Sorry, I don't role play.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 18, 2012 8:25:21 GMT -5
How's Minnesota doing? Mike Yeo's system working out or what?
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 23, 2012 22:42:57 GMT -5
Streak OVER! Enjoy, I sure did. Cue the excuses.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Feb 24, 2012 0:00:38 GMT -5
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 24, 2012 6:51:23 GMT -5
I didn't see Malkin on the ice either.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 24, 2012 9:05:20 GMT -5
The most talented player in the world, the BEST IN THE WORLD is Sidney Crosby...and it's not even close.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Feb 24, 2012 10:06:02 GMT -5
The most talented player in the world, the BEST IN THE WORLD is Sidney Crosby...and it's not even close. If Sidney Crosby were to lace up his skates too aggressively he would become dizzy and unable to play. I fail to see how he even qualifies for this discussion.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 24, 2012 10:20:07 GMT -5
Dizzy? What? Haha, that's Hiller's forte. Even without legs Crosby is better than anybody else in the world.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Feb 24, 2012 11:00:16 GMT -5
Even without legs Crosby is better than anybody else in the world. This guy tends to disagree:
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