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Post by Derrick - Senators on Dec 21, 2011 0:54:10 GMT -5
Commissioner Rankings
1. Anaheim (-) If you look up "beast" in the dictionary, chances are you will find a picture of the Anaheim Ducks logo. Already capturing wins over Ottawa, Calgary, Detroit, (tied San Jose), Anaheim has taken the league by storm. Leads the league in total points scored (329). Only weakness might be in net. Oh, and the Malkin trade.
2. Ottawa (-) The most eye-popping stat of the early season might be the fact that Ottawa has the same amount of short-handed points as it does game winning goals. Eight. That's an average of 0.8 GWG a week. Regardless, Ottawa has managed to stay top 2 in the standings all year despite injuries to Martin St. Louis, Mike Richards AND all the while having to roster Jonas Hiller.
3. San Jose (-) Too much of San Jose's success depends on the health of Sidney Crosby who is just sitting out a couple games as a precaution once again out indefinitely. Ravaged by injury, San Jose has somehow managed to stay in the top 5 in every single league category.
4. Calgary (-) Claude Giroux is the best player in the NHL. Period. If and when Cam Ward rounds into form, Calgary moves up a spot. Notoriously soft in years past, Calgary has 328 PIMS on the year, good for 3rd best in the league.
5. Detroit (-) A team that has the defense core of Hamhuis, Bergeron, Spurgeon, Kronwall, Vlasic, Enstrom must have a pretty stout group of forwards right? Not really. Unless you consider Chris Kelly, Rich Peverley, and Pascal Dupuis "stout." 59 of Detroit's 136 points (43.3%) have come by way of goaltending stat wins. 1st in every single major goalie category in the league and 2nd in shutouts.
6. Carolina (-) Hottest team in NAFHL right now boasts a 5-week winning streak with wins over San Jose and Anaheim during that span. The tandem of Halak, Pavelec and Emery lead the way with 13 wins and a sub-2.00 GAA over the last month. Malkin = 15 points in the past 6 games.
7. Toronto (-) Toronto is just one of those Jekyll and Hyde teams. It beat Ottawa and tied San Jose but lost to Carolina and tied Washington. Kari Lehtonen's return (13 W, 2.34 GAA, .926 SV%) should provide some consistency. This year's Cinderella team.
8. Minnesota (-) UNDERACHIEVER. Has just one win on the year versus Washington way back in week 3. 3rd overall in the league in assists (212) but dead last in every single goalie category (17 W, 3.26 GAA, .883 SV%, 1 SHO).
9. Winnipeg (-) Any chance Winnipeg had at making the playoffs went out the window with its acquisition of James Reimer in exchange for Jaromir Jagr and Logan Couture. Before the trade, Winnipeg was already in the bottom 6 of every single offensive category on the year and both Neimi and Brodeur are better options in net than Reimer.
10. Colorado (-) Fun fact: Colorado is the ONLY team in the league to have a cumulative minus total on the year (-55). This is a great stat that will probably never happen again in fantasy hockey. Enjoy it.
11. Washington (-) I really want to blame Washington's sub-par performance so far on injuries to Havlat, Latendresse, Myers, Green, and Ennis, I really do. But the only bright spots this season have been Backstrom and...Backstrom. A nice group of prospects adds hope for the future.
12. Boston (-) The fail for nail is on! 3rd in the league with 117 goals on the year and has a surprisingly good amount of goalie wins (26), good enough for 4th in the league. Excellent farm team and will be a serious threat in the coming years.
Standings
1. Anaheim 2. Ottawa 3. Detroit 4. San Jose 5. Calgary 6. Winnipeg 7. Carolina 8. Toronto 9. Colorado 10. Boston 11. Washington 12. Minnesota
IDLE COULD RISE COULD FALL
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Dec 21, 2011 1:31:52 GMT -5
Looks like my win streak is coming to a quick end as my team is currently down 0-9 to Detroit. Lots of hockey left to be played this week though so maybe there's time for a comeback.
My team is an obvious underdog in the fight for the playoff spots but if Malkin and Sharp (who's on pace for 87 points) carry on playing like they have, who knows what might happen. Certainly a lot more fun to try to take a young team to the playoffs than to look to finish in the bottom three anyway.
Anaheim has certainly been awesome this season and perhaps we'll actually see a new franchise lifting the winners trophy come the end of the season. Ottawa and San Jose propably got something to say about that and much depends on the health of Crosby. Hiller playing like SpongeBob certainly hasn't helped Ottawa either.
As a sidenote, I can't believe how Minnesota can be a bottom tier team with that keeper core.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Dec 21, 2011 9:52:22 GMT -5
It's become comical at this point that you have the nerve to put yourself ahead of my team, injuries or not. I have you beat 9-3 on cumulative season stats. You put Anaheim ahead just to give the illusion of unbiased 'reporting' but you're as transparent as they come. I also have Anaheim beat 8-4 on cumulative season stats.
Let me clue you in on the true Power Rankings:
San Jose Sharks = BEST IN THE WORLD
The Rest = Inconsequential
#heel
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Dec 21, 2011 14:47:55 GMT -5
It's become comical at this point that you have the nerve to put yourself ahead of my team, injuries or not. I have you beat 9-3 on cumulative season stats. You put Anaheim ahead just to give the illusion of unbiased 'reporting' but you're as transparent as they come. I also have Anaheim beat 8-4 on cumulative season stats. Let me clue you in on the true Power Rankings: San Jose Sharks = BEST IN THE WORLDThe Rest = Inconsequential#heel I am typing this post for you and everyone else who might share your same sense of denial. 1. You sit 4th in the standings after almost half the season has been played, behind both Anaheim and Ottawa. 2. You lost to Ottawa. Matchup against Ottawa Senators 3. You tied Anaheim, but would have lost the tiebreaker due to being a lower seed. Matchup against Anaheim Ducks #facts
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Hannu
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Post by Hannu on Dec 21, 2011 14:59:49 GMT -5
Nos, you can look at my tail lights! I'm not slowing down But yeah, I did feel at the beginning of the season, that I have a good group. Even though I woulda liked to keep Seguin =) But I never thought that I would be leading going to the Christmas break. There's still half a season left. GL for everyone. =)
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Dec 21, 2011 15:58:21 GMT -5
My team makes me cry.....theres hope for Nail though to add to my prospect pool.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Dec 21, 2011 22:27:50 GMT -5
I just wanted to say I lol'd at my team summary. The rankings are always fun to read.
Hannu, don't worry, Seguin is pretty comfortable on my team. Of course, I'm sure you're pretty comfortable with Sedin, Hossa, & Byfuglien (who I traded to your team before you took over), too!
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Dec 22, 2011 4:50:10 GMT -5
It's become comical at this point that you have the nerve to put yourself ahead of my team, injuries or not. I have you beat 9-3 on cumulative season stats. You put Anaheim ahead just to give the illusion of unbiased 'reporting' but you're as transparent as they come. I also have Anaheim beat 8-4 on cumulative season stats. Let me clue you in on the true Power Rankings: San Jose Sharks = BEST IN THE WORLDThe Rest = Inconsequential#heel I am typing this post for you and everyone else who might share your same sense of denial. 1. You sit 4th in the standings after almost half the season has been played, behind both Anaheim and Ottawa. 2. You lost to Ottawa. Matchup against Ottawa Senators 3. You tied Anaheim, but would have lost the tiebreaker due to being a lower seed. Matchup against Anaheim Ducks #facts Facts? Here are some other fun facts: 01. The lead you have on me is 9 points, or 4.5 category wins, that lead can be overtaken in one week. Anaheim is ahead by 19 points, or 9.5 category wins, that lead can be overtaken in 1-2 weeks. There are 12 weeks left before the fantasy playoffs. In other words, your 'lead' isn't as significant as you make it out to be. I could be looking back at you as soon as this week is up. 02. One week? Let's take a look at the whole picture. San Jose/Ottawa matched up week to week:Week 11: 9-3 San Jose (so far…) Week 10: 6-4 San Jose Week 09: 7-3 San Jose Week 08: 8-1 San Jose Week 07: 8-2 San Jose Week 06: 8-4 Ottawa Week 05: 9-2 Ottawa Week 04: 7-3 San Jose Week 03: 9-2 Ottawa Week 02: 6-4 San Jose Week 01: 6-5 Ottawa Not counting the current week, I've had you beat 6-4 week to week, which gives me a 60% chance to beat you on any given week given the stats to this point, i.e. BETTER THAN YOU! The more concerning stat here is that since that win vs. me you haven't had me beat once, this week included. That's 5 straight weeks. 03. Once again, on cumulative season stats I have you beat 9-3. I have Anaheim beat 8-4. These numbers are full stat lines. These are also facts.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Dec 22, 2011 6:13:19 GMT -5
I am typing this post for you and everyone else who might share your same sense of denial. 1. You sit 4th in the standings after almost half the season has been played, behind both Anaheim and Ottawa. 2. You lost to Ottawa. Matchup against Ottawa Senators 3. You tied Anaheim, but would have lost the tiebreaker due to being a lower seed. Matchup against Anaheim Ducks #facts Facts? Here are some other fun facts: 01. The lead you have on me is 9 points, or 4.5 category wins, that lead can be overtaken in one week. Anaheim is ahead by 19 points, or 9.5 category wins, that lead can be overtaken in 1-2 weeks. There are 12 weeks left before the fantasy playoffs. In other words, your 'lead' isn't as significant as you make it out to be. I could be looking back at you as soon as this week is up. 02. One week? Let's take a look at the whole picture. San Jose/Ottawa matched up week to week:Week 11: 9-3 San Jose (so far…) Week 10: 6-4 San Jose Week 09: 7-3 San Jose Week 08: 8-1 San Jose Week 07: 8-2 San Jose Week 06: 8-4 Ottawa Week 05: 9-2 Ottawa Week 04: 7-3 San Jose Week 03: 9-2 Ottawa Week 02: 6-4 San Jose Week 01: 6-5 Ottawa Not counting the current week, I've had you beat 6-4 week to week, which gives me a 60% chance to beat you on any given week given the stats to this point, i.e. BETTER THAN YOU! The more concerning stat here is that since that win vs. me you haven't had me beat once, this week included. That's 5 straight weeks. 03. Once again, on cumulative season stats I have you beat 9-3. I have Anaheim beat 8-4. These numbers are full stat lines. These are also facts. None of your "facts" matter because neither I nor Anaheim were playing you in the subsequent weeks you speak of. I can't speak for Anaheim, but had I been playing you I would have inserted benched players into the lineup (based on needs; PIMS or points, etc) and started (instead of benched) different goalies based on the matchup outlook and should the situation have called for it. This of course would completely change the cumulative statistics, and more importantly the comparative weekly totals. Your "facts" are hypothetical and irrelevant. It doesn't matter if one wins by .01 GAA or 1.01 GAA. 1 PIM or 100 PIMS. Winning is winning.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Dec 22, 2011 9:16:10 GMT -5
Phfft. Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!-- Homer Simpson
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Dec 22, 2011 9:29:38 GMT -5
None of your "facts" matter because neither I nor Anaheim were playing you in the subsequent weeks you speak of. I can't speak for Anaheim, but had I been playing you I would have inserted benched players into the lineup (based on needs; PIMS or points, etc) and started (instead of benched) different goalies based on the matchup outlook and should the situation have called for it. This of course would completely change the cumulative statistics, and more importantly the comparative weekly totals. Your "facts" are hypothetical and irrelevant. It doesn't matter if one wins by .01 GAA or 1.01 GAA. 1 PIM or 100 PIMS. Winning is winning. The differences you 'would have' made to your lineup are negligible, it also goes both ways. I'm reporting on what actually happened, which stats were collected, my facts are not 'hypothetical' nor 'irrelevant'. These are the stat lines for the year. There's no skirting the issue, no hiding, this is what's happened thus far. You claim my success hinges on Crosby but even without him I have you beat 9-3 on the year. That is a fact. I beat you in the playoffs without Crosby last year 9-3, that is a fact. Winning is winning, sure, but you have to look at the stat lines harder, view trends, I can just as easily say you're ahead in the standings because of situational advantages and 'luck'. You could beat me on any given week but are the numbers in your favor? No. I'm better than you, I'm the BEST IN THE WORLD! Deal with it.
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Dec 24, 2011 11:05:00 GMT -5
Best in the World goes down to the Jets 7-5 this week luck or not a win is a win. My roster is under evaluated I will be a playoff team.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Dec 24, 2011 12:14:49 GMT -5
Where do I start? This week was akin to being handcuffed to the ring, ref distracted by a manager and me being stomped by three men and calling it a fair fight. That's as good of a week as you'll ever have, a shortened week, 6 more skater starts than me, 4 short handed points on one day, +22 (more than quadrupling your yearly take which was at a whopping +5 before this week), etc. You want a perfect example of situational advantage there it is, Derrick wins his week 7-3 and I lose 7-5 but if we were paired up I would have slaughtered him for the 5th straight week 9-3. There's a silver lining to this though and here it is... 9. Winnipeg (-)Any chance Winnipeg had at making the playoffs went out the window with its acquisition of James Reimer in exchange for Jaromir Jagr and Logan Couture. Before the trade, Winnipeg was already in the bottom 6 of every single offensive category on the year and both Neimi and Brodeur are better options in net than Reimer. This week's numbers: Pekka Rinne: 1, 6.62, .789, 0 Jose Theodore: 0, 4.56, .833, 0 Jonas Hiller: N/A James Reimer: 2, 2.27, .940, 0 Looks like Reimer was good enough to beat Derrick's entire goaltending unit... this week.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Dec 24, 2011 15:59:54 GMT -5
To bad you don't play Der every week just give it up patting yourself on the back already we get it your team is good
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Dec 24, 2011 18:36:15 GMT -5
Where do I start? This week was akin to being handcuffed to the ring, ref distracted by a manager and me being stomped by three men and calling it a fair fight. That's as good of a week as you'll ever have, a shortened week, 6 more skater starts than me, 4 short handed points on one day, +22 (more than quadrupling your yearly take which was at a whopping +5 before this week), etc. You want a perfect example of situational advantage there it is, Derrick wins his week 7-3 and I lose 7-5 but if we were paired up I would have slaughtered him for the 5th straight week 9-3. What you can't seem to wrap your head around is that you do not play me every week. Having better (collected) stats than me in however many weeks DOESN'T MATTER. I am better against a greater number of teams in the league. Hence why I am ahead of you in the standings. By my estimation, that makes ME better, and gives ME the better chance at winning the championship because you might not even get the opportunity to face me in the playoffs should you lose in the first or second round to one of these other teams you aren't accounting for.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Dec 24, 2011 21:45:07 GMT -5
So I am supposed to be shocked, and furthermore impressed by Reimer posting a GAA of 2.27 and a SV% of .940 on the week? A week where he started 3 games and 2 of them were against the two LOWEST SCORING TEAMS IN THE NHL? Los Angeles has scored 76 goals on the year, or 2.17 goals a game. The New York Islanders have similarly scored 77 goals on the year, good enough for 2.33 goals a game. Let's not take things out of context here. Reimer merely scored par for the course, given his 2.27 GAA, if not a little below. All the while he looked like his same old mediocre self. Many of your posts have made it clear that you have no idea what you are talking about in terms of scouting and analyzing players, especially goalies. Since you refuse to listen to anything I have to say, I have decided to provide you with a quote from "expert" Jeff Angus at DobberHockey who mimics my same thoughts: James Reimer looks uncomfortable in net. He was spitting out awful rebounds all game long, but the Isles didn't really take advantage until it was too late. That is all. You may return to your box score watching "scouting" techniques now.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Dec 25, 2011 9:16:48 GMT -5
What you can't seem to grasp is situational advantage, you've been fortunate to this point. How can a team that has better collected stats not be better? You were lucky in your weeks to gain more points than me to this point. I'm not forgetting about any teams, I'm merely comparing my team to yours since it's been the most heated rivalry in NAFHL and the basis for this argument that's ongoing.
Many of my posts have discounted and embarrassed you, over and over really. You come off as pretty desperate, grasping at absolutely anything you can to spin the argument in your favor. Why should I care about what some schlub on dobber thinks? Honestly? You used that as backup? Wow. I'll let the actual numbers speak for themselves as far as more knowledgeable talent assessor goes.
Ottawa: 26, 2.63, .917, 6 San Jose: 28, 2.29, .919, 6
That's without this week's numbers which will skew it even further in my favor.
Ottawa: 1, 5.55, .811, 0 San Jose: 5, 1.82, .937, 1
I get better, you get worse, etc.
Merry Christmas to all! ;D
*EDIT: Keeping Track
Ottawa:
Beat San Jose 8-4 this year. Holds a 9 point lead in the standings.
San Jose:
Beating Ottawa 9-3 on cumulative season stats. Beating Ottawa for 5 straight weeks. Beat Ottawa twice last year in the regular season. Beat Ottawa for the Championship 9-3. Reigning Champion!
Who's better again?
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Dec 25, 2011 11:05:06 GMT -5
How can a team that has better collected stats not be better? Team A Week 1: 10 G, 15 A, +5, 20 PIMS, 10 PPP, 100 SOG Week 2: 10 G, 15 A, +5, 20 PIMS, 10 PPP, 100 SOG Week 3: 10 G, 15 A, +5, 20 PIMS, 10 PPP, 100 SOG Week 4: 10 G, 15 A, +5, 20 PIMS, 10 PPP, 100 SOG Week 5: 10 G, 15 A, +5, 20 PIMS, 10 PPP, 100 SOG Week 6: 10 G, 15 A, +5, 20 PIMS, 10 PPP, 100 SOG Week 7: 10 G, 15 A, +5, 20 PIMS, 10 PPP, 100 SOG Week 8: 10 G, 15 A, +5, 20 PIMS, 10 PPP, 100 SOG Week 9: 10 G, 15 A, +5, 20 PIMS, 10 PPP, 100 SOG Probable record: 36-18 Totals: 90 G, 135 A, +45, 180 PIMS, 90 PPP, 900 SOG Team B Week 1: 0 G, 5 A, -5, 5 PIMS, 0 PPP, 75 SOG Week 2: 31 G, 36 A, +26, 61 PIMS, 31 PPP, 151 SOG Week 3: 0 G, 5 A, -5, 5 PIMS, 0 PPP, 75 SOG Week 4: 0 G, 5 A, -5, 5 PIMS, 0 PPP, 75 SOG Week 5: 31 G, 36 A, +26, 61 PIMS, 31 PPP, 151 SOG Week 6: 0 G, 5 A, -5, 5 PIMS, 0 PPP, 75 SOG Week 7: 0 G, 5 A, -5, 5 PIMS, 0 PPP, 75 SOG Week 8: 31 G, 36 A, +26, 61 PIMS, 31 PPP, 151 SOG Week 9: 0 G, 5 A, -5, 5 PIMS, 0 PPP, 75 SOG Probable record: 18-36 Totals: 93 G, 138 A, +48, 183 PIMS, 93 PPP, 903 SOG *crickets*
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Dec 25, 2011 11:18:39 GMT -5
Glad you posted that, shows what extremes you'll go to, no team will ever look like Team B so it's an irrelevant example. It's at such an extreme and completely unrealistic that it can be dismissed immediately. Here are some other fun facts:
San Jose Sharks hold the most dominant playoff record in NAFHL history at 21-3. San Jose Sharks are the only team to finish in the top 3 every single year. San Jose Sharks longevity is greater than any other team, winning a Championship in NAFHL's first year and its current year, 5 year span.
I'm actually glad you think you're better, gives me yet another advantage. I hold the strap, you have to take it from me, man up already.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Dec 25, 2011 18:11:03 GMT -5
Check it out, an argument Derrick style: Team A:Week 01: Win Week 02: Win Week 03: Win Week 04: Win Week 05: Win Week 06: Win Week 07: Win Week 08: Win Week 09: Win Week 10: Win Week 11: Loss Week 12: Win Week 13: Win Week 14: Win Week 15: Win Week 16: Win Week 17: Win Week 18: Win Week 19: Win Week 20: Win Week 21: Win Week 22: Loss Team B:Week 01: Loss Week 02: Loss Week 03: Loss Week 04: Loss Week 05: Loss Week 06: Loss Week 07: Loss Week 08: Loss Week 09: Loss Week 10: Loss Week 11: Win Week 12: Loss Week 13: Loss Week 14: Loss Week 15: Loss Week 16: Loss Week 17: Loss Week 18: Loss Week 19: Loss Week 20: Loss Week 21: Loss Week 22: Win According to Derrick Team B would be better because that team won its weeks against the other team. Come playoff time who's gonna have more confidence though? Who has the advantage? I think it's pretty clear.
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