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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 26, 2012 15:47:13 GMT -5
To Toronto:
Peter Holland
Brandon Pirri
2012 3rd Round Entry
To San Jose:
Radim Vrbata
I accept.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 26, 2012 16:05:14 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear the "3rd round entry pick is a quality asset and Brandon Pirri is a highly coveted prospect" arguments over this one.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 26, 2012 16:11:37 GMT -5
Yea this ones a steal
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Post by Scott - Maple Leafs on Feb 26, 2012 16:36:10 GMT -5
i accept
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 26, 2012 16:46:27 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear the "3rd round entry pick is a quality asset and Brandon Pirri is a highly coveted prospect" arguments over this one. These are some of the players I've taken in the 3rd Round of the Entry Draft: David Rundblad Michael Del Zotto Teemu Pulkkinen Jordan Weal Calle Jarnkrok Markus Granlund Jonathan Miller So...yeah, it is a quality asset if you know how to draft. You know, if you have that skill of recognizing talent. To the butthurt, kindly stay out of my affairs. -San Jose Management |
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Post by Robyn - Flames on Feb 26, 2012 17:08:20 GMT -5
It's a rental, not a bad deal for either side. Toronto won't keep Vrbata, so why not get something for him?
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 26, 2012 17:17:26 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear the "3rd round entry pick is a quality asset and Brandon Pirri is a highly coveted prospect" arguments over this one. To the butthurt, kindly stay out of my affairs. -San Jose Management Says the guy constantly telling others how to run there team |
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 26, 2012 17:26:56 GMT -5
Yea. Vrbata is only on pace for 40 goals 30+ assists and 250+ shots as a right winger.
Next I assume you're gonna argue that Peter Holland is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ and the prospect to end all prospects which is complete bullshit as you're well aware. He's perhaps the 4. best prospect in the Anaheim ranks after Palmieri, Etem and Schultz. A nice prospect to have in a 29 player deep farm system sure, but not nearly enough to be the main source of value in this kind of a deal.
Brandon Pirri is basically worthless dime a dozen prospect who's really lucky if he ever lands a fulltime 3rd line job in any NHL team to crack 50 points. Yay!
The fact that you even argue anything about the value of your 3rd round entry pick speaks volumes really. It will quite certainly be in the 33. - 36. overall range which means that there's at best 4 players that get drafted before it's free for all signings to the farm.
It's a complete joke of deal and you know it well enough.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 26, 2012 17:45:02 GMT -5
Exactly what Marcus said. Why wouldnt Vrbata be a keeper hes having a very good season for what is arguably the hardest position to fill in fantasy hockey RW. Its a joke of a deal.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 26, 2012 17:48:59 GMT -5
Just because you stupidly put little to no value in these prospects doesn't mean they have no value. It just means your critical mind is weak. Scott offered this up to me, he constructed the deal and I accepted. Scott has a better critical mind than you Markus, and a sight better than Chris, he knows how to conduct his team. Robyn, one of my rivals, understands the deal because he's one of the best prospect analysts in our league. He 'gets it', you don't.
Vrbata's having a great season but can he be relied on beyond this season? No. He's a rental. A Free Agent pickup. I dropped him earlier in the year so for someone I could have had for free I paid a good price to reacquire him. Stop crying.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 26, 2012 18:04:02 GMT -5
Just because you stupidly put little to no value in these prospects doesn't mean they have no value. It just means your critical mind is weak. Scott offered this up to me, he constructed the deal and I accepted. Scott has a better critical mind than you Markus, and a sight better than Chris, he knows how to conduct his team. Robyn, one of my rivals, understands the deal because he's one of the best prospect analysts in our league. He 'gets it', you don't. Vrbata's having a great season but can he be relied on beyond this season? No. He's a rental. A Free Agent pickup. I dropped him earlier in the year so for someone I could have had for free I paid a good price to reacquire him. Stop crying. ;D You're so knee deep in bullshit you couldn't even conjure any far fetched argument about the prospects, could you? Shame really, I would have enjoyed reading how there's gonna be otherwordly talent available at 35. overall pick this year that surely won't last to free agency. Gotta pay up to snatch that talent! Re: San Jose Sharks Farm Transactions « Reply #220 on Feb 23, 2012, 10:24am » |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 26, 2012 18:42:38 GMT -5
You're a fool Markus, plain and simple, I gave you names of players I drafted in the 3rd Round. Highly touted names, talent, every pick in the Entry Draft is useful. Even at 33-36, what would real NHL clubs think of a pick in that range? Just outside of the 1st Round, it would be pretty valuable, but then again they have scouts, talent assessors, people who aren't complete scrubs unable to utilize picks that high.
Pirri should have been owned already, I was actually shocked he was available, I put it down to an oversight as well as bad managers (you & Chris) not recognizing talent. Holland was selected by myself, 13th overall, he's a great player with a good organization, should get a chance to center Anaheim's second line soon.
Bottom line, watch more hockey.
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 26, 2012 19:03:20 GMT -5
I'll use your line stay out of my affairs. You haven't shown the ability to recognize talent you rip off other GMs and then bitch that's it. I'm so tired of your im better than you attitude
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 26, 2012 19:12:52 GMT -5
You're a fool Markus, plain and simple, I gave you names of players I drafted in the 3rd Round. Highly touted names, talent, every pick in the Entry Draft is useful. Even at 33-36, what would real NHL clubs think of a pick in that range? Just outside of the 1st Round, it would be pretty valuable, but then again they have scouts, talent assessors, people who aren't complete scrubs unable to utilize picks that high. In the NHL there are 210 players drafted every year. Our draft covers 36 players after which the remaining players can be signed by anyone. Chances are you finish in the top2 this season which means that there are whopping 2 players that get drafted before complete free agency. The fact that you even try to compare our entry draft to the NHL draft is quite simply idiotic. One would think that such a great talent analyst such as yourself would perhaps notice the subtle differences between the two. Your "watch more hockey" comment truly made my day. |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Feb 26, 2012 19:39:32 GMT -5
I'll use your line stay out of my affairs. You haven't shown the ability to recognize talent you rip off other GMs and then bitch that's it. I'm so tired of your im better than you attitude I haven't shown the ability to recognize talent? Players I've signed this year alone: Adam Henrique Brian Elliott Carl Hagelin Mathieu Perreault Jimmy Hayes Justin Peters Shane Prince Mark Olver André Petersson Joe Morrow Johan Larsson Jason Zucker Brandon Pirri Players I've drafted in the past 3 years: Ryan Kesler David Backes Alexander Edler Jeff Skinner Mikael Granlund Jordan Staal Brent Burns Teemu Pulkkinen Dougie Hamilton Brett Connolly Victor Hedman Zac Dalpe Players I've signed in the past 3 years: Jonathan Quick P.K. Subban Brent Seabrook Justin Schultz James Reimer Travis Hamonic A huge core of my team was drafted or signed by me. I haven't ripped anybody off, in most cases (including this trade) I was approached with the offer. I am better than you, deal with it. In the NHL there are 210 players drafted every year. Our draft covers 36 players after which the remaining players can be signed by anyone. Chances are you finish in the top2 this season which means that there are whopping 2 players that get drafted before complete free agency. The fact that you even try to compare our entry draft to the NHL draft is quite simply idiotic. One would think that such a great talent analyst such as yourself would perhaps notice the subtle differences between the two. The total number of players doesn't matter, what matters are the total number of fantasy relevant players and there are many examples in the real NHL's 2nd Round (picks 31-60) if you have the ability to recognize them. The only thing idiotic was your oversight of that, or refusal to believe there are gems to be found that 'late' in the draft. Try to become a better talent analyst and you might pick some up. Your "watch more hockey" comment truly made my day. I have you reeling huh? Wow, I'm enjoying it. |
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 26, 2012 19:54:56 GMT -5
That list of yours is a joke give me a few hours I'll show you my drafting as for my signings I dont sign many players mid season because I have no room on my loaded farm/development roster but when I do its a decent signing. tbc....
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 26, 2012 20:00:31 GMT -5
Sean Couturier
Jamie Oleksiak
Tyler Seguin
Beau Bennett
Mark Visentin
Charlie Coyle
Tyler Toffoli
Scott Glennie
Chris Kreider
Mikko Koskinen
Ryan O'Reilly
Alex Pietrangelo
Cody Hodgson
Greg Nemisz
Jordan Eberle
Tyler Ennis
Tyler Myers
Dmitri Kugryshev
Jake Allen
Brandon Sutter
Nicholas Petrecki
Max Pacioretty
Patrick White
Keaton Ellerby
Erik Johnson
Travis Zajac
Enver Lisin
Now you tell me whose drafting has been better.
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Post by Markus - Hurricanes on Feb 26, 2012 20:02:11 GMT -5
The total number of players doesn't matter, what matters are the total number of fantasy relevant players and there are many examples in the real NHL's 2nd Round (picks 31-60) if you have the ability to recognize them. The only thing idiotic was your oversight of that, or refusal to believe there are gems to be found that 'late' in the draft. Try to become a better talent analyst and you might pick some up. ;D ;D Obviously you still don't get it. I don't seriously know how much more clear this can be. The reason why that 3rd rounder of yours is virtually worthless is that there are likely only 2 players drafted before the Toronto owner could have signed any of the remaining players for no cost. If you actually win the league it's one player that gets drafted before Toronto would have been free to choose anyone of his liking anyway had this trade not taken place. Now before you answer with more bullshit at least try to read and understand what I just wrote and maybe try coming up with an actual argument. |
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Post by Robyn - Flames on Feb 26, 2012 20:03:34 GMT -5
That list of yours is a joke give me a few hours I'll show you my drafting as for my signings I dont sign many players mid season because I have no room on my loaded farm/development roster but when I do its a decent signing. tbc.... You have 11 open spots on your loaded farm team. You've also traded away your 4 best draft picks with Pietrangelo, Eberle, Seguin and Couturier. |
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Post by Chris - Capitals on Feb 26, 2012 20:11:51 GMT -5
and like 9 picks in the upcoming draft
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So exciting.
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So exciting.
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You better make that pick or trade it! I'm excited to see if we can use up all the draft picks this year.
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You better make that pick or trade it! I'm excited to see if we can use up all the draft picks this year.
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