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Post by Chris - Capitals on Jul 10, 2012 11:11:09 GMT -5
I agree that the punishment that has come down seems kind of harsh and probably should have gone with just a warning. I also understand that Derrick thinks he's had problems with Brad in the past and he probably in his mind has an extremely tight leash on Brad this time around. As for the roster limits I also remember having to do a final keeper list before the season started and being able to trim down to the final 19 roster players and 19 farm players I don't remember when or why that changed but I did like it but either way it doesn't really bother me how its set up now.
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Post by Hawks on Jul 10, 2012 11:14:48 GMT -5
I would prefer to see it go back to that system personally...
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Jul 10, 2012 11:40:22 GMT -5
Does seem like an oversight since you've been pretty active on the boards. I always assumed there was a grace period after prospect draft where you could be over max limit, but you had to trim down your rosters before the a certain date (like start of season or end of August after all drafts?). This is how it should operate. It was like this before, in the beginning, where you'd have a final roster submission date and you'd have to make cuts before this date. I personally like that system, a sort of training camp. The way it's set up now is by roster space by the time of signing/drafting. I'm not stating how it should or shouldn't be, I'm just mentioning that sometimes the rules get muddied b/c we've had so many changes. As long as the rules are explicitly known, I think we can avoid any miscommunication. |
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 10, 2012 12:04:47 GMT -5
The way the system is currently set up prevents managers from signing an absurd amount of prospects as an attempt to horde them and/or package them in trade, all the while not technically having the roster room to accommodate the players. There is no way to prevent this, other than the system we have now. I have been toying with another idea concerning this issue, but I shall address that at a later date.
With that said, I do not feel as though the rule of roster requirement/limits has been muddled or confused in any way, whereas Brad was the only manager who didn't observe it. This was not an accident. And even if the rules do change from time to time, that is not the issue here. Brad has gotten his (several) warning PM's. Not only was he removed from NAFHL the first time around for missing an entire draft (and other picks), but has consistently missed picks, held up drafts, and been generally uninformed in the NAFHL Development League, where he was a GM for the past year before being called up.
These sorts of activities might be easier to overlook in the minors, but I, for one will not put up with them in this league. Something had to be done to break these bad habits and ensure that other GM'a don't fall prey to this sort of laziness, both for the betterment of the league and for the betterment of each individual GM. I stand by my decision. Think of it as "tough love."
As for the rules being clearly defined, I am drafting the new 2012 Rulebook to reflect the league changes that have occurred since the last update as we speak. It should be up shortly.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Jul 10, 2012 13:08:40 GMT -5
The way the system is currently set up prevents managers from signing an absurd amount of prospects as an attempt to horde them and/or package them in trade, all the while not technically having the roster room to accommodate the players. There is no way to prevent this, other than the system we have now. That's a really great point. I didn't even think of that one. The current system is a great way to deter this. |
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Jul 10, 2012 23:31:05 GMT -5
The way the system is currently set up prevents managers from signing an absurd amount of prospects as an attempt to horde them and/or package them in trade, all the while not technically having the roster room to accommodate the players. There is no way to prevent this, other than the system we have now. I have been toying with another idea concerning this issue, but I shall address that at a later date. Actually, previously you were only allowed to go above the roster limit with draft pick selections. So you couldn't just sign one hundred prospects and keep them. If you were above the limit you couldn't sign anybody either. So there's that. Brad has gotten his (several) warning PM's. Not only was he removed from NAFHL the first time around for missing an entire draft (and other picks), but has consistently missed picks, held up drafts, and been generally uninformed in the NAFHL Development League, where he was a GM for the past year before being called up. These sorts of activities might be easier to overlook in the minors, but I, for one will not put up with them in this league. Something had to be done to break these bad habits and ensure that other GM'a don't fall prey to this sort of laziness, both for the betterment of the league and for the betterment of each individual GM. I stand by my decision. Think of it as "tough love." Why did you choose Brad as a replacement GM then? If there were so many problems, even in the minor leagues? I figured the best choice available would be chosen for GM replacement, otherwise what's the point of that Development League? As for the rules being clearly defined, I am drafting the new 2012 Rulebook to reflect the league changes that have occurred since the last update as we speak. It should be up shortly. I see the new rulebook is up, would it be possible to note changes in bold like before? |
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Post by Hawks on Jul 12, 2012 7:15:51 GMT -5
I was kinda wondering the same thing. There were not issues with me in the development league, except that maybe I was too active. Other than being reprimanded during the initial draft for using the 12 hours that I'm allowed for a pick. (Never gotten in trouble for following the rules before).
Regardless, I'm over it, Der can sign Hertl and I'll live to play another day. I will be paying very close attention to my roster as to avoid any further "lazy" mistakes.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 12, 2012 21:19:23 GMT -5
I was kinda wondering the same thing. There were not issues with me in the development league, except that maybe I was too active. Other than being reprimanded during the initial draft for using the 12 hours that I'm allowed for a pick. (Never gotten in trouble for following the rules before). Regardless, I'm over it, Der can sign Hertl and I'll live to play another day. I will be paying very close attention to my roster as to avoid any further "lazy" mistakes. Once again, I didn't present a question. There is no need for your input here. With that said, you are wrong. Or suffer from a serious case of denial. Or both. You missed several picks during the inaugural draft, and EVERY pick during this summer's prospect draft. I am not arguing with you on this, and there is no need to try and put any other spin on it because the facts (skipped picks) are there on the forum for everyone to see. I couldn't care less about Hertl. This is about accountability and the betterment of the league. |
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 12, 2012 21:29:44 GMT -5
The way the system is currently set up prevents managers from signing an absurd amount of prospects as an attempt to horde them and/or package them in trade, all the while not technically having the roster room to accommodate the players. There is no way to prevent this, other than the system we have now. I have been toying with another idea concerning this issue, but I shall address that at a later date. Actually, previously you were only allowed to go above the roster limit with draft pick selections. So you couldn't just sign one hundred prospects and keep them. If you were above the limit you couldn't sign anybody either. So there's that. Why did you choose Brad as a replacement GM then? If there were so many problems, even in the minor leagues? I figured the best choice available would be chosen for GM replacement, otherwise what's the point of that Development League? As for the rules being clearly defined, I am drafting the new 2012 Rulebook to reflect the league changes that have occurred since the last update as we speak. It should be up shortly. I see the new rulebook is up, would it be possible to note changes in bold like before? 1.) The point of having a roster spot cap and not allowing it to be exceeded is so that everyone is on the same playing field (or lower if he or she chooses to move picks). Not to mention, the obvious loophole here (which is what was occurring) is that GM's would load up their rosters to the max right before the draft and then be 9-12 players over the limit after the drafts were over. It is the same principle, just one is done pre-draft the other is done post-draft. 2. Brad was chosen because he displayed the most desire to join NAFHL. He was put on "probation" of sorts where he did and said all the right things. I gave him the benfit of the doubt because I thought maybe he was turning over a new leaf (which would have been great for the league). Sometimes the most "ready" prospect isn't always the one with the highest ceiling. Same principle seems to apply here. 3. Yes, the new parts can be highlighted in bold, but it might take me awhile to do. And I am hesitant to do so because I want all GM's to actually read it instead of skim through. I would venture to say that some GM's (hired since 2009) have never read the rulebook. |
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Post by Hawks on Jul 13, 2012 11:48:43 GMT -5
I like how you're making me out to be this awful GM because of one small oversight... I'm on the boards every single day, talking to other managers, trying to get my team ready, so forgive me for me low "ceiling".
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Jul 13, 2012 12:04:30 GMT -5
I like how you're making me out to be this awful GM because of one small oversight... I'm on the boards every single day, talking to other managers, trying to get my team ready, so forgive me for me low "ceiling". Keep up the good work and there won't be any further issues. |
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Aug 23, 2012 14:57:50 GMT -5
Yahoo registration is now open. An invite has been sent to each of you to join the league. If you can not find the invite in your inbox, please check your junk mail whereas it might be in there. Thanks.
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Post by Nos - Sharks on Aug 28, 2012 8:47:27 GMT -5
Everybody hasn't signed up yet? That's embarrassing.
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Post by Hawks on Aug 28, 2012 10:43:36 GMT -5
And I'm the one up for removal... ;D
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Aug 29, 2012 16:02:39 GMT -5
The Yahoo league is finally up and running. Initial Waiver Priority Order has been determined randomly.
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Post by Mark - Bruins on Aug 30, 2012 21:35:32 GMT -5
"8L) ...Waiver priority at the beginning of the season is in the reverse order of the order of the waiver draft."
I thought the waiver order is reverse of the waiver draft, not randomly decided.
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Post by Derrick - Senators on Aug 31, 2012 4:28:09 GMT -5
" 8L) ...Waiver priority at the beginning of the season is in the reverse order of the order of the waiver draft." I thought the waiver order is reverse of the waiver draft, not randomly decided. Says the guy who finished last.  I am pretty sure we decided last year that the waiver order to begin the year would be completely random and that the rule quoted above just slipped through the cracks in the editing process of the new rulebook. I could be wrong though. And if I am, this is definitely something that needs to be polled. While I am all for parity and "rewarding" the lower-seeded teams, the rest of the league has to have something to look forward to as well, even if it is something as small as the waiver priority order. |
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Sept 1, 2012 13:30:18 GMT -5
Are there any Habs fans part of our league?? I am in Montreal for the long weekend. If you ever visit here Reuban's deli is the best for Montreal smoked meat sandwich.
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Post by Robyn - Flames on Sept 15, 2012 16:01:55 GMT -5
Fuck the lockout. It's Millionaires fighting Billionaires.
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Post by Tyler - Jets on Sept 15, 2012 16:23:21 GMT -5
No matter what happens or how long this shit takes. Owners make billions players make millions and fans suffer. Fuck Bettman and anyone else responsible for a lockout. I just want to watch puck lol millions of the fans feel the same our opinion is thrown in the garbage. The fan base should boycott ALL home openers whenever hockey does come back.
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So exciting.
You better make that pick or trade it! I'm excited to see if we can use up all the draft picks this year.